What Is The Meaning Of Coincidence?

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Hamza and David explore the wonderful world of coincidence. Does everything happen for a reason or not? Do we really control our destiny? We discuss experiences both pro and con on the subject from a homies’ perspective…

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[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] finally good roll Harry are back what’s up everybody happy sunday to you yes I was something everyone this is hamza this is david and welcome back to our second installation of intrinsic motivation a whole new perspective yes so thanks for everybody that followed us if you’re following us on periscope we’re on periscope right now we also have a youtube channel we also have a Facebook page as well so all three are under intrinsic motivation offense of homies perspective and last week we talked about the power of napping got some really good feedback on that would you think about that first session I think it went well mmmmmm did get some good feedback yeah really good feedback and so this week we want to keep it going I talked about it a little bit last week we I was highlighting this book when god winks and in fucking car he’s a he’s well the biggest comedian in the universe is the creator in my opinion and so that’s why I wanted to highlight this book it’s by Squire rush now it’s an old book it’s been written it was written back in 2002 and so it talks about all the coincidences coincidences in a person’s life if they have any meaning or not or is every are we just on a ball and we’re just going around around the earth with no meaning at all some people think that some people think that we’re all connected some people think that there are no accidents people think that there’s no such thing as a coincidence either so I think before getting started let’s talk about your definition of a coincidence well I’d say my definition is events things happening that maybe at first on outset you would not think have anything to do with each other but as the experience moves forward you you see some kind of connection to it and at first you might be like oh you know it’s just just happened to be that way but you know like I believe there’s no accidents so for me that’s kind of what a coincidence is extra experiment experience happening that seems that on the outset is not related but is related okay right not you I I would think the same thing I think that when we look back at our first episode we talked about when the door opened and one thing that kind of started why we should even do what God links for this episode was was there one significant moment in our lives or were there a bunch of significant moments throughout our life that we were unaware of and one that was so huge that you could not ignore it and all of them were coincidences but once stood out more so than the other yeah that’s a good point things that that you weren’t aware ever maybe they were quote-unquote coincidence or god winks and then later in life you might look back and say wow you know that happened and I think that’s what that was yeah and you kind of mentioned earlier you know God being the the best comedian in the universe and you have to have to have a lot of sense of humor if you’re going to create all that there is but um I think he it really depends on how he winks at you the space that you’re in at a time so he’s not going to sit there and give you a wink and if you’re in a lot of pain or something serious he’s going to give you to you in a level as you can handle I think if you have a tremendous amount of maybe human amusement in your life you’re going to do something really funny so I don’t think he does it he does it according to where you’re at at that time okay so it is nice well I think to give direction to this i would like to break that in half fright so we’re going to be on it for about 50 minutes or so so you put your seatbelt on and for the first 30 minutes I’d actually like to talk about the positive things right because life is perception then we want to talk about the god winks that you’re like oh my goodness of course that happened it’s not an accident right and then in the second one week we could be a little subdued I don’t know how far we’ll go with that right since we’re pretty upbeat people but life is perception so if we can start out with some good things if you want to start out with what is this go ahead question I’d like to start out I’ll start out first right though if we talk about what’s a god wink like to me the earliest i can think of is and she’s watching us now she’s over in my orca now so people are in my orca watching this which is pretty awesome but my first God wink would have to be my twin sister okay so when I chose to incarnate then you know I had this grandiose idea plans like most people do right but I wasn’t really sure I think I needed some kind of backup and so my twin sister she came with me right but see were living minutes difference I’m 11 minutes older than her so I was rub that into kinda hate that I hate it even watching this right right I’m like yeah I’m living its odor it’s really funny like even today she’ll call me and then I’ll call her 11 minutes later like we know our birth records and such so they’re always just late it’s always fun well I didn’t think she was coming right because 11 minutes was a long time for baby right and so we’re talking in the 70s a hurry up already so I that was a god weekend ourselves like she’s playing how to seek like I’m not going to come or I am going to come and so since you did come with me I consider it out a huge God wink because she has helped me in every aspect of my life girlfriend problems nope oh why is this girl doing this all i have to do is look at my god wink look at my twin sister and she’ll tell me oh girls doing this because of that right so like nobody’s got nothing over me period I think that’s funny i think that’s of my first Godwin so let me ask you this God wink and divine intervention is that same thing is they’re divine intervention or are we living free will or we live in the heart are they cousins the divine links and God we’re all cousin man we’re all cousin so it is it is kind of the same thing i would i would say so alright because there’s always that there is an argument that if you’re free wills only before you incarnate okay right so before you’re in car date obviously you’re an after all and you’re thinking hey you have all these grandiose plans and ideals before you come to this quicksand or slower third dimension yeah well you’re like I’m going to do everything I’m going to be the president while eating ice cream ma chewing bubble gum you know all this and then you get here on the earth plane you’re like why am I here life is so it’s a struggle I’m not having fun right so there is an argument of freewill versus destiny and I think that’s where if the Creator doesn’t talk to us specifically like was highlighted in the book the best way that you can have that communication with the Creator is to acknowledge your god winks okay because when I read the book a lot of great stories in the book and i’m sure i’ve had some similar experiences I’ve had like so many in my lifetime I can’t remember all of them but I have a lot of stories I guess you could say that i would call divine intervention so I was kind of struggling a little bit by reading the book i’m like well there’s a god wink or is this that I decided Walt it’s all it’s all gone so yeah absolutely and well yeah I think that that is a distinction that’s a really good sting shin because if it’s the angel you know whether it’s got sent hate God created the Angels so it’s all absolutely yeah you’re breaking through the illusion you know I think what most people do in what you kind of did just now is we have a tendency to separate everything and so with this being Sunday right typically especially in the first world we look at the three religions ray we’re looking at oh well you can’t be on my team if you’re not in my religion right so there’s a lot of separation and exact right so when you have that separation you’re looking at hey those aren’t god winks because you’re taking yourself out of the equation the biggest thing is we have we most people should and myself it took some time right I didn’t do this way that right out the wound either I’m just like everyone else I have I’m not perfect right so I looked at ways that distance myself all right I’m originally from New Jersey and when I move down south it was like they’re so different or well you know and then I went to a school where people were from California and they were so different you know what I mean and it was like we had more in common than we had that would separate us yeah so you know if we look to unify them I think you get more out of it and when you look at it from a unification standpoint I think that’s where the greater god winks come in yeah so would you like to share any any god winks that you can specifically think of right now that comes to mind well I would say the earliest one that I can remember and it kind of freaked me out because I was pretty young I was probably about maybe four or five years old and went to bed I was sleeping and had that some point in time woke up because someone was calling my name mm-hmm and I remember sitting up in bed and thinking who was calling my name i’m looking around my room it was a really soft voice it was a woman’s voice and she just kept saying David things like that and I I know what was going on I remember going over to my window looking out the window seeing well who’s there there nothing so ultimately I went into my parents room told my mom to hate him on someone you know so she made my dad get up a look around the house and I think that wasn’t that was my first experience with spirit and for whatever reason they didn’t return any time soon after that maybe they like well we kind of freaked him out maybe he was just a little too young yourself but to this day I remember like it was yesterday mm-hmm and obviously things kicked in when I got older but I think that was my first experience with what i would call any kind of anything related to a god link was that sure and you actually bring up a really good point you know so since we know segundo your mom since I know your mom or a horizon center horizon center forward to it of awareness here in Atlanta Georgia what is was really interesting was her grandchildren and so I remember specifically there was a holiday event for Christmas let’s just say Christmas Kwanzaa whatever you good Hanukkah you know whether all those holidays cember so it was around that time so we have this big potluck there and we were playing what we’re playing this game and it was so easy for the grandchildren to excess source right they were nine ten and it was it was really a challenge for the adults even the belts that were going through these spiky development classes at the time right and so it was more we had to read learn with Kingsville naturally Selena and its really funny today in 2017 these children these two grandchildren that I’m speaking on specifically are what 19 18 17 18 19 years old and they really want some level don’t want anything to do with this and so it’s really interesting of our lives of you know when we choose the Incarnate here you have this relationship like I think we’ve mentioned this last week once a man twice a child right and you have that childlike awareness and Wonder and want to know more things whereas when you’re past adolescent so maybe your early 30s when as you mentioned that maybe that one door opening really happened again before then you’re just so focused on what’s happening in in the illusion in your day-to-day life in snow or delusion right so you’re not really paying attention to the god winks at that time and that’s where that door opening may potentially come in as we did see a horizon I was one of those people right in mid to late thirties come in like what’s going on in my life I need some answers right I have these everything written down on paper as to how it’s supposed to go it wasn’t allowing the comedian or I was allowing the comedian to get the belly laugh because of a hair like well let you think you can do these things on your own power but you know there is a greater power outside of yourself you know that kind of goes back to your free will versus destiny yeah I think sometimes two people you know you have to watch what you ask for and sometimes you can forget there could have been a time when you said I need you know I need some answers and then whatever so your likes going along and then you start getting all these links and you might have forgot when that you asked for something like that you know people all the time will say sup this and a half something happens and they’ll remember you know remember when I was you know thinking about that and maybe it was a month ago but you just forgot you know something like that so they can kind of kick in you know at the right time seems like they say the teacher shows up at the right time that’s a really good point that actually kind of goes into our and Kendra’s group because when we first started out the internist grew we’re coming up on the one-year anniversary of the the Marietta Georgia present one year the other we stayin will be junior year and so what’s interesting is what when the group’s first started we were looking at future right and then dr. Blaylock I have to give her a shout out because she passed out a little gratitude gratitude journal and it was more of future based right or at least that’s how I interpreted my own interpretation but then when I revisited this god winks book it was like well no if you write down everything that you’re grateful for even in the past or in the president right it’ll bring more into the future I think that’s where the multitude of god winks comes in because of your gratitude you’re expressing gratitude like I know for girls right when I first started dating or guys can probably relate to this right you first start dating you’re doing everything they’re showing a lot of gratitude to towards you but later in the relationship you may not be as gracious to them right you can grant it right and then your nose argument never and those arguments but I think that’s a god wink to it’s like what you know what have you done for me lately what are you doing to keep this relationship going so I thought I always say you know female relationships because that’s where most of my experience is however I’ve also used that to translate over into the business world I found that as well with with clients that I had four five six years right it’s always ongoing it’s always this is the latest thing that I can do for you I can bring you more business and such and they reciprocate right they tell other people they refer new business to me so I think that it’s always that grat it’s always grounded in that foundation of gratitude that you start seeing more God wings in my opinion so you said that for you the gratitude journal is for future that’s how I looked at it with when I first started with the intenders group the intenders group for those that don’t know yeah it’s a weekly meeting and we get together at different locations we talk about what our intentions are for the future so in my opinion at the time when I make an intention that’s something that is future based right and so when I look at car totally or some even this conversation we’re talking about god winks everything happens in the present right even the future is being manifest based off of what you are currently configuring in your mind in the present right so if you take advantage of it that way then if you’re using the gratitude journal as well you can actually look back and see wow okay i remember i set this intention at this time I let it go I didn’t question universe it happened it manifest and now i’m showing gratitude so I can kick it to the next level Yeah Yeah right I try not to be as linear I just think in third dimension that does happen and me being a business owner I have a tendency to do that and so that’s always incorporated but when I look back at it from a spiritual standpoint then I can see though God wings happening and I appreciate it and I think that even my ancestors are showing that gratitude as well I think that grad we were talking off-camera about ancestors coming through or you even said this even as a child that they didn’t come back and you’re like well how come they didn’t come back hook ameno is here and it may have been hey it’s just not that time or you’re just not open to it yet and they’re just biding their time because there’s no time out by the third dimension yeah alright so you know you kind of look at it from both aspects yeah well it’s interesting because for me the gratitude journal was always a present time thing I guess I never saw it as something in regards to the future now setting my intentions that was stuff that I wanted to manifest obviously at a future time if it wasn’t already manifesting but i always for me the gratitude was grateful for what’s happening right now been going on in my life so there’s not a be no good or bad or better worse that’s just simply got what for me please okay but it sounds a little bit like the separation right and I think I’m trying to merge the two okay so I think you’re we all have a tendency to compartmentalize right so you’re saying I have a gratitude and then i’m going to set my intention and what I’m saying is they probably go together and I think that there’s greater manifestation based off of your gratitude okay she’s you’re saying yeah yeah okay right yeah you know k well yeah but like I could be grateful for something that I didn’t necessarily intend in my intentions but I’m just happy I mean I’m grateful for you know the great weather that we’re having things we have today or whatever so that would necessarily have been an intention when we talk about what our intentions were for that day or you know what we want to have I for me I could just sit there and say I’m grateful that I have a great family you know a great mother you know job whatever it is and that could be its separate from something that I some intentions that I put out there I don’t have to put an X same time those are my have to be in the competition with each other you can just be hey I’m just grateful for this I’m grateful that you know I feel good every day when I wake up I’m grateful that I’m healthy well I see what you’re saying okay right because we’re thought if we’re talking god winks yeah then it’s totally unexpected yeah right like even though we expect to wake up every day at some point there’s going to be a time where all wake up right now and so there’s going to be times where you have every intention perfect example is that I can pick up as far as a guide link right is so there was a time that it was spring break right and so i remember in orlando we had dillards and so dillard’s at this time had like a sixty-six percent off sale type of deal right and so we I’ve look at awake in that morning with my friends like five o’clock we all ran for like two hours had that runner’s high took the shower like yo now we’re gonna go to the barber shop like we had to hold a plan right I don’t go to the barber shop after that then we gonna go to the mall get some food check out the girls and it was like damn right it was amazing it was like and we were going along that path right so we’ve all read them all we did eat right and then we’re walking over to dylan’s and I was like I just start bending over and I was like pause right I was but I my stomach was hurting okay so I was like why my stomach hurt oh my goodness then I was just like it could have had to be something that I ate so I was like excuse me you know i went to the restroom and so I was like okay cool well maybe that was just indigestion let me get over back to dillards because my boys like then I got away for me to go to the bathroom they like you don’t we how are not the girls at the mall we call Johnny you know we tell him and I was like all been so yeah so we get i get aren’t you know i’m catching up to them and I it’s like now I’m not just like bending over at the waist like actually am laying on the floor at dillards right and I was like yeah like no I have my hand on this shirt like y’all got a weird weird if they caught a beach for Spring Break right and i can’t wait you don’t say and i’m on the floor so can you imagine how silly that looks like even today like that but and that’s not even the god when you get so the god week was there like yo you okay and I was like I’ll know so then I go outside right you have go back out to the mall common area and I I can’t go any further so I lay on the bench right and people are just passing me and I was like wow is this how it gives bum off the bed yeah I was like wow I feel invisible it’s just how homeless people feel like I fucked this at like 18 or something right and I was like wow people kept passing me by like oh you know the who’s who’s Guylaine I at an upscale mall and then this lady came from out of the blue I didn’t know her from Adam and she was like yo you’re like she knew my mom but I never knew her she was like yeah I seen your like your baby pictures are something somewhere right and today I’ve never seen her ever again ever again but she came there she called the ambulance she called my mom they rushed me to the hospital that had to get my pendant stick it out the appendix they were like if you didn’t go if you were there like an hour later your appendix with a burst oh my god right so that’s why I’m sayin like that’s where the god wing comes in because you have every intention of human during the day of this is what’s going to happen and God wakes is like oh okay you think you would control everything but the universe is in control of everything well you know that’s an interesting story so let me tell one so this was sometime in the 80s late 80s and I started with started on a tuesday and i started experiencing the pain in the middle of my back okay no big deal by wednesday a certain a lot more by thursday i was in deep doo-doo just serious pain I don’t even know how to explain it I could hardly move my back was you know spasming and stuff like that and I think up by on Thursday I started getting something started coming to me in regards to getting on my knees kneeling down crossing my arms and just kind of lunging myself over okay the ground but just like whatever just whatever crazy thought by Saturday I couldn’t even walk right I was laying I remember waking up Saturday and the first movement I just made laying on my bed it just might back to seize them and I started crying I was in so much pain I literally crawled out on my bed right into the main room and I called a friend of mine and we were talking he was like hey man how’s it going to man you know you want to know how bad my back was hurting so as we’re talking it kept coming to me to do exactly what I told you get up on my knees cross my arms and lunge over so strong that I told my friend so you know let me call you back he’s like alright whatever so hang up the phone i’m looking at that image you know doing that so finally I’m like all right I’m just going to do it what’s going to happen it’s either going to get worse it’s going to get better or nothing’s going to happen so I did that I crossed my arms lunged over and I just laid there for a few seconds waiting for word just to on SWAT opinion no pain and I slowly kind of started the unwind nothing no pain no pain eventually I got up to my knees then I stood up moving more and more no pain no pain I started dancing right here it is I woke up that morning can only crawl now I’m going down the soul train line I mean no pain gone just like that and I had got that a few days before something was telling me to do that but I was just wasn’t paying attention to the night of them mmm that was it yeah penguin from 10 20 that’s really that’s interesting I remind me of there was this Jesus story right and so you know it’s Sunday so anyway therapist there’s this conversation and the person was complaining it was like Jesus you never talk to me he’s ever talking to reduce great end of the day at like a really terrible day right in the guy and no you just had several bills other guys the guys you know calling out at the end of the day like these where you been like this day is so hard and all this happened right if you like you never even talk to me right like in the morning you may say thanks Jesus I will go today but then you put me in your back pocket to like the next hot work or only if something happens yeah yeah something major happened yeah yeah now you will be mommy right now you call me call you know right yeah so you know I think that that’s where I think the Creator is very comedic right because you know I lose in my opinion that illusion of that free will kind of you can go as far as you can kind of like what we were talking about last weekend when we talk about astral travel and you can’t really escape from the cord like the cord is keeping you grounded so but the how far how long is that leash so you go out as far as you can but you’re always going to get brought back to in this case reality so when you see that there’s something outside of you something even bigger then I think that’s where the inroads can be made and you can start having an impact and you can also start being a beacon potentially for other people and I say beacon has an heir clothes right I’m not going to do their quotes but as Abraham always says it’s a perfect world right and so I think growing older when I was younger you know as you start learning some of these things and it’s like Christmas you want to share your tools you want to share your toys with everyone else like Christmas morning right you riding around with new bike oh you can ride my new bike type of deal and there’s people that are receptive to and there are people that are not but people learn on their own time as I just mentioned in the god winks right the Creator our guides our ancestors they let us go as far as we can on our own power and then we get brought back to reality okay okay I need some help right I’m not here I’m not I’m not the only person I’m not an island and I can’t do it by myself no I completely agree did you have we ask you this did you have in the book do you have a favorite story my favorite story always starts at the beginning and so what’s really been interesting is it’s been two weeks now that I think I talked about last week how of this book even had come about again I mean it was on myself collecting dust and something I told me I think it was after or our intention meeting two weeks ago and one of the members that potentially will be a guest on one of our future shows had mentioned something oh there was something that we’re talking about ancestor were ancestor worship and she had mentioned that she felt alone and when she felt that like I felt really bad for I got back into my music I got into my own space that stayed out of her space but it was a reminder of times that I think we all feel that way from time to time and usually you know that probably is a really good segue until the next 20 minutes or so about you know we covered some of the positive things but what are the other like god winks that on the surface at that time potentially looks like something really bad or detrimental or wise is happening to me in that time but when you take a step back that’s where the hindsight’s twenty-twenty oh wow if this had not happened then I wouldn’t be in the situation that I am into a and so in the book the thing that I really liked was his beginning because this man is middle age when he ever in this book and so I guess by by mathematics and numbers we would be considered middle-aged at this point eight matches conversation right and so at that time where you’re at that middle phase you got the next 40 50 years life on Earth you review the previous and you’re like well what can I take that work for me up into this point what can I discard we’re always looking at what should we keep in what should we get do away with maybe we’ve outgrown it and not even heard and some of my experiences not out how to herd of my experiences but it’s my estimation that even your guides change right your guide that was there’s some guys that are always with you and then there’s guys that are there with the range of the stages about your legs actually and so at the beginning his thing that I really liked was he’s very corporate I think that really resonated with me being super corporate being a director going on the ownership track and that the only difference was I was moreso married to the to the to the game if you will and that i eschewed everything else just to get what i thought that’s what i really wanted you know and even that’s a godly right because all the time has passed and i’m like wow and i look and i’ll be at the park or something i’ll see little kids and i love my grandkids grandkids i love my nieces and nephews and all and but i look at what if this happened and i went down a different tangent and i had a wife and kids will my life be like that day right it’s just something that I think most people evaluate right I think people with kids look at me like man I wish I could have traveled the world and done all these other things it’s like the grass is always greener right and so I think what also happens is we look at our life and we may look at checklist to I don’t want to say bucket list but you’re like ok these are the things that I didn’t do and that is the reason why reincarnation happens right because there are some things you feel that’s unfulfilled some people say karmic it could be a number of things up hey well I didn’t get to accomplish it this time let me try this next life and I think that’s where another in car another god willing comes in because maybe you are black in this life and the next live you aren’t ya so you think as a person with pigmentation or a different side of the world or different side of a planet or it could be a number of things God wink is just on earth right so yeah a different angle different experience absolutely so when you’re free for you reincarnate before you incarnated you’re putting together your your contract so to speak right you did you okay yeah I’m good did you go through that the veil of forgetting forgive what is this veil afore getness where you forget everything that you have written out and now you’re sitting here crying and have no idea what’s going on why am I here yeah or two maybe you just had a good timing like me that was fun I’m gonna come back do it again Oh latter blast i’m gonna come back and have another blast yeah absolutely yeah because you know there’s a saying that this is one of the hardest schools right and there’s others that’s like why am I here why am I even going to this this is the one I signed up for then you didn’t see the fine print like yeah you did join up with the fine print look at the fine print so I’d like to start out with one at the time it seemed like it was a really big challenge but ultimately right it turned into a god wing and then as I as time went on it really showed us out to be a god link so there was a time where I did mention corporate wise where you know I’m climbing that the ladder and what was really interesting is as as a black American those that travel around the globe know that blacks in America are seen as black Americans that african-american it’s a whole nother conversation but I will always say as a black American because that’s how the world sees you so anyway I’m traveling I’m going all these great places and what was really cool as I became attractive because of that so in my opinion like I attracted a different type of woman because of that right growth has their checklist this is what they want from a man type of deal right and so which is fine right I think it’s on some level we we do everything for women anyway so if it wasn’t on some level yeah man do what you talk about what we’re talking about with is women anything then we win I mean we live in a cardboard box and we play xbox all day right but you know women like some of the trapping so it’s the job the car at a house right on some level the level we are all right it’s on some level that’s part of the mating process so anyway I was involved with a young lady and I was getting older and you know I was picking women on trips just for like business trips right like a conferences and we go on cruises it really fun stuff right I’m trying to downplay it so anyway I’m thinking okay this is great I get to take different girls that he’s cruises and stuff and my boss at the time I love her to death and she’s you know she’s like you can’t keep taking these girls to be trip and I’m like why I write and she’s like well look around you so you’re talking to all these business owners and such and we’re getting large scale projects again I’m trying to play this down so we’re getting these large-scale projects these guys have wise kids they’re more of a stable life style yeah right and you have a stable life style Hamza you know you’ve worked with us for a number of years and all that however the perception is you’re bringing all these different women around and that’s not a sign of stability so at some level and luckily we had a good relationship because the conversation that we’re having would raise HR flag for people that are listening right those are these are the issues that is your right you would get grounded for a discrimination potentially yeah and so anyway I took that the mine and I was like yeah I’m getting older on paper why not right I’m a guy so I said on paper because guys can we have a little bit more leeway great because we could still have to later in the right right so anyway um yeah I’m in a relationship and you know it wasn’t it now I could say it wasn’t the ideal relationship but based on the pressures I work and such I was going to marry this girl and I had met a family law attorney at the time and I was looking to do business with him and so we had done lunch and you know we’re talking I didn’t know her from Adam she didn’t know me so we’re getting to know each other at lunch and you know ultimately I was like yeah later this year I’m gonna get married and it’s matthew she said haha hey look too excited oh oh you get older than who want to get married to a guy that’s like was you know getting older ray like that’s something is married yeah I didn’t lose everything I love to do ok married like women trust me having a twin sister already knew this I’m just saying it’s for the podcast right I know that’s not the thing to say so anyway I had I have a marketing background so I have spreadsheets and power points in this lunch meeting right of course I’m joking but I’m talking about all the reasons why here in my 5-point reasons won’t get Mara great hearts to God and is a good run he’s laughing at me because he’s just like okay that’s great i understand here a marketing guy but I’m a family law attorney so while you talk about marketing all day I deal with relationships all day and have you thought of this and have you thought of that and have you thought of it she just kept smacking me up to be honest you know Maggie me like I was totally unprepared right and here I was going on his path but in my own free will of this is what I’m going to do and today I can say that both parties both the girls dating or engaged to and I would have been a statistic right we would have been either in a bad marriage where we just resent each other or we would be a statistic where we’d be divorced and so that chance meeting that coincidence that however you want to look at it on the surface was a god wink it was showing hey this direction that you’re thinking about you might want to think twice about and this lady i sent her so much but she she’s embarrassed right she says I embarrass her because I’m always like this woman saved my life and you know I just kind of go on and on and no another thing so a couple of years later of a friend of mine he’s out yo go gators he’s a gator too and he was getting divorce unfortunately and so you know he’s like man he’s bummed and so I always ask I’ve called man now right do you have any representation and don’t wait until you’re going through the incident to have representation you should just know what you’re getting into so anyway I asked him and he said no and I said I know the perfect person you say hi life blah blah blah blah blah blah he has an office announced from reddit he has an office in marietta and i was letting on about a few other things and he goes oh shit and I was like what’s the matter he was like I think she’s representing my wife oh and I was like dude just getting ticket to the cleaners because she’s a pit bull then so sorry sure she knows her job and to use that thorough but it what God week at the time that now I have a resource and I am more prepared for the next level as to when I do get married and settle down like I would approach it so much differently as opposed to well this is what society dictates that I should do this at that time and I attributed that to a god wink so there was a story in the book that I read about who was that the girl who’s I don’t know her her father or her mother her mother remarried and I’ll know that her father had died or they were parents just got divorced and her mom remarried but she was looking through some old photos with her her her mother’s new husband and I guess you could say okay and she found a photo when she was really young when they were on a trip in the Bahamas and then she noticed that this man that her mom had married he was sitting in the background of the photo and he’s like hey what year was that and was he goes yeah I was in the Bahamas that year so like 19 years before you know here there is her father in that background now the reason I mentioned that when i read that there was a story on i guess was a good morning america and i had this couple and they had photos and he had got married and for the wedding they were going to put out some photos of themselves when they were children ok so the groom was looking through some photos and that’s that his mother-in-law had given him a photo album and he found the photo when his wife-to-be was at Disneyland or Disney World ok yeah his wife-to-be was about maybe five years old and she was taking a picture with sneezy one of those seven drawers so I can’t remember which one yeah okay and in the background well as the photo was taken you see a man pushing a stroller and the guy was like hey that’s my father right there in that show and who was it that was him in the stroller yeah this was like 19 years before they ever even met yeah his father pushing the stroller was in the background of the photo of his wife taking with you know one of the seven tours sure yeah yeah well you know what that’s really funny because while I said I’ve revisited this book in two weeks you know in the past two weeks I actually has this book back in like 2004-2005 like it came out in 2002 right and so I was using the basis of this book at the time for the girl and the story that i just mentioned because what was interesting was i lived in dominican republic she did you at the same time unless she I’m not going to tell you where she’s wrong to you know people compete this together but we were in Dominican Republic at the same time like I’m showing pictures of different places and she’s like oh my god I was there that night no type of thing oh my god right and then like we would go to different restaurants whatever and she would be there right and didn’t know where so at the time I’m like these are all god winks this is the one I should marry right like we even had dated and had separated for like three years right dated other people in at that time she came back into my life so I’m like this is a God way gray or two part two you have to pay attention like right and so I’m using the combination of the Godwin from using a combination of my twin sister like amusement every Power that I can reach right and ultimately it wasn’t it was just like I’ve even we’ve even done past life regressions on it too and so we looked at it as oh we didn’t carnate in previous lives and you know we took care of each other and everything and so we were actually reliving that in this life of karma that we had completed yet right so we didn’t necessarily need to be married but we had to be together to fulfill that karma at the time yeah right so it was like it would still god winks yes yes there was fulfillment that needed to be done yet where their contracts that needed to be completed yes all the above but did we need to be married to be married today in that you know the 2.5 kids and the dog and the white picket fence no yeah yeah it’s almost like a timeline is just different timelines and maybe that we choose for whatever reason but you always feel that there could be another timeline well here’s the other thing so you know since you know we in the previous episode we were talking about the different psychic phenomenon such as so I remember our good friend Yvonne had gone to see her and Yvonne for those and on about Yvonne O’Brien as a world-renowned medium from from Ireland Ireland yeah comes from a big family of psychic so we even met her mom who’s a huge psychic as well so anyway I had gone to see lon at an event and she you know she’s a medium so one of my ancestors had come through and long story short I was still with the girl at the time and I was I was I was sharing concern that this may not be the direction that I want to go right as far as moving forward with with the young lady and the ant ancestor said three von well of that as your wish then that doesn’t have to happen in this lifetime either so that kind of gave me confirmation outside of we’ve met with counselors and all that before deciding not to get married right so I kind of covered both gamuts i covered the third dimension of let’s look at this from a pragmatic standpoint but i also use my my spiritual tools in the spiritual community to help make that come to cut come to that conclusion and i use all of those god winks because not at its really it’s sad in my opinion there’s people that you see that I’ve seen that are very talented but they don’t use their talent and that could be psychically that can be physically that can be they’re great in sports but they don’t work out or something like that and they can build to the next level but they choose not to or they don’t see it yeah and so that’s where we’re not supposed to metal either and that’s why it’s a perfect world because you kind of it back an amusement of hey I have my own life to live there not in my they’re not infringing on myspace of what I need to do so why would I do that to them and that could be their own personal God week where they would come back later on in life like hey maybe I blown an opportunity and now i’m going to make sure my kids don’t blow an opportunity to potentially yeah yeah none that makes sense complete sense I wish I could just for the purpose of this particular podcast and it just came to me as we’re doing all this talking it was a really good one maybe I’ll we’ll revisit it and bring it up another time but just real quickly it was in did you ever see Schindler’s List no no okay and that’s a Jerry Seinfeld episode where every tues well yeah yeah he wasn’t broken up give me endeavors I’m sorry ready go that is he was like Nick and I went to make out an ammonia so there’s an actor wring Ralph’s for ray finds whatever plays one of the Nazi guys who you know in real life was someone in real life and there’s a documentary actually on this deck that that particular could not say he had a daughter and that daughter had a daughter when she was really young and the father was black right and she gave it up for adoption and it’s just a real quick story about how that particular daughter found out who her grandfather was who is this Nazi and ironically she was a person that he would want to kill get rid of simply because she was black right but I I’m not going to go into exact cameraman the entire story but literally she was in a bookstore or library or something in this book literally fell off the shelf you know peg Dean she picked it up and thumbing through it is how it all started for her so that was that’s really a great wing story and like I said it just came to me now as we were start talking but it would have been good I have to find out the full story again because she’s you know she’s on YouTube and she talks about it into a video all of what happened and when you when you hear you’re just like wow what are the chances that would ever happen whether it is yeah yeah what are the chances yet exactly that makes me think of another I mean I could do Godwin I have all day but it makes me think of you know god bless my grandfather he passed in 2014 and are easy with the patriarch right so his name his name is capers so our lineage is capers and I remember watching fresh prince of bel-air you know when it was out and the grandmother on the first Prince of bel-air her name was Virginia in real life Virginia capers and so when credits roll I remember you know hearing my mom asked my grandfather like Oh what if she was our cut what if she was related to us right and then they were like oh you know we kind of laughed it off and then you went on about your business and so one thing that we respected his wishes he especially for black Americans it’s such a robust history to put it plainly that there are a lot of skeletons to that other generations really do not want to uncover yeah just because of pain right we may do a podcast about pain body and such so long story short we did a genealogy report and it turns out yes Virginia was we were way too late are and then what was really interesting I said I said it was bittersweet because come to find out she was on her side getting all the capers together for years and so she was able to go back historically back to the 1600s of the capers name and such and so we were able to pull even slave records sale you know going through the changes of slavery and sale and buying and selling and all that and excuse me understandably you can see how there’s a lot of pain with different family members of that may have lived through that or for right after that so they were always reminded of that so but it was really cool because in 27 2016 we were able to reach out to so many people on Facebook and such and we have such a robust family that we have contact with right and so it was really interesting because right before we were doing this I was going to do this report I was visiting my mother in Orlando and it was Sunday so on Sunday we would we do brunch and so we were always checking out these new places and so you know i do a google search and it was in an area we were unfamiliar with right and so we were we were driving to this place to go get brunch and the gps took us on this weird exit right and i like what’s going on and then i go there’s no and then I’m like wait a minute this looks familiar it took us right pastor funeral home where my grandfather where we had a funeral for my grandfather right and so in my opinion that was his god wake up I didn’t want you guys to do this while alive but i’m ok with you guys doing it now yeah right and then after i got that guy like we got the report and then everything is peachy as i just mentioned but it was more of hey he just checked in like hey it’s okay it’s we’re on the right you’re on the right path that yeah and I needed that weight because I didn’t want to feel like we went behind his back to do this and waited until he passed away wow yeah wow so we’re kind of getting close to time here but I want to I want to tell one quick story now this is I guess it could be a god wink and a divine / divine intervention but I just have to tell I’m not going to mention any names because I don’t you know I don’t want anyone bothering her about the story but a friend of mine told me this story so her grandmother and her younger brother I think they lived in Poland this is doing the whole Nazi rain when they were gathering people up putting it in ghettos she had already lost her I think her mother and her father and his sister so a family friend had taken in her grandmother and the grandmothers younger brother they were young and periodically the Nazis would come and do searches people’s house and see if they were hiding in when hiding him Jews ok she was Jewish and or sometimes people would rat him out say hey you know they’re hiding someone so that was always a threat or a fear that they had and one night that happened they got their house got raided so her her and her brother were in the bedroom the door was open and they’re laying in bed into the middle of the night and they’re like all that’s is our times up they’re going to catch us they’re going to come in here and whatever the not to search the entire house for whatever period of time and all they did was they kept walking up and down the hallway not one time did they come into the bedroom or even look in the room and she said she said we were just huddled together waiting for him to catch us she says they just they kept walking by as if there was no door there was just like a wall you know open door she say they never came in and they never looked and I can tell you this story now because she lived obviously told her granddaughter and who told me mm-hmm now I’m telling so that that’s like a thats i couldnt to me act like a divine intervention although that’s a wink i still think it’s a God link to that we know that if you think about that time there’s a lot of despair so you’re probably wondering how could this happen mm-hmm why is this happening to us why is this happening to me and you’re feeling really cut off right you’re feeling cut off from from from the universe from all the tools that we so eloquently lacked about or took for granted right and when that happens is she’s sharing that story in the magnitude like she didn’t know her grandma her granddaughter would tell you that story you know what I mean like how far-reaching it is where it seems so simple or this couldn’t have happened yeah right like how is it like I’m saying they’re the same thing between divine intervention and the guy link right it’s like yours not not that you personally you’re separating but I’m saying most people are where it would seem like it’s an accident okay right and so that probably gives hope to so many generations like an ad that’s why you’re sharing the story angst or now a quick follow-up and I wish I could have met this she died a few years ago in Florida eventually she did end up in one of the ghettos okay she was reading now then you know everyone knows the Nazis use does use slave labor a lot of times before they were sent to camps you know and she was reading gone with the wind one morning all right so it was the morning though they had to get up and go to work whatever and all the girls were saying hey what are you doing let’s go the guy to get the work she’s like I ain’t going I’m just going to sit here and read my book and like what are you crazy if they come back and find you know it’s going to happen I don’t care whatever happens happens that guy right so all those woman left that day except her she stayed back and was reading gone with the wind well no one ever came to check on her and at the end of the day a whole new group of women came in all those women had left that being never came back oh yeah yeah and absolutely yeah incredible an incredible story you know thank God she decided that so what’s the role the story read gone with the wind finish your book have you know what and I think that’s why why the podcast is so big right or the potential just because of reaching like-minded people and such and with other generations it was always oratory as far as passing these these accounts of what’s happened in the past right it was a tradition you know without all the technology people SAT around and within the grandmother and grandfather talked about you know the quote unquote good old days or they or antidotes of what to be aware of and you know it brought people back to to family one in the community to write like you had a sense of pride of that like look at what happened this is what happened there’s countless stories that people can share where they were supposed they were late for something and because they were late they avoided yeah something that was huge she’s right and so that’s kind of what you were saying it was i ten nine eleven a lot of what I mean 911 I mean you name it even even the terrorist attacks the past year across the world type of deal like that’s where I think that’s why I wanted to highlight and that’s why I like our podcast obviously because we’re doing it but I like that it’s always perception so I think the difference is a lot of people are reactionary and talking about the bad thing of what happened but we’re talking about things like God links weight and so on the surface that’s a pretty that could be a pretty sad story but how do we perceive in and what was the good that we got out of it yeah right so that’s why I wanted to take time to one acknowledged Squire rush Nell because you know we talked a little bit about you for two weeks and the power of coincidence and if everything’s an accident or not or do you take advantage in and be on the lookout I think that’s a homework assignment for people and myself included i think that if I ever fill down then I know like Abraham says you’re so you’re on a resistance right now you’re not even aware of all the god links that are happening around you and so I’ll i actually like to end on that note right i think that most people should not just look on the brighter side of things in be whoo whoo but i think that for the people that really feel disconnected that hopefully they’ll actually get access to listen to this and maybe take on this homework assignment because there are two sides to every story or three sides as attorney say and the way you perceive it is how you are actually going to potentially benefit from it or you’re going to just keep going in a downward spiral and so I think we’ve highlighted both good scenarios both on the surface will could be seen as bad scenarios but it seems like the common thread is the creator so the Creator is through boat on on both sides and so acknowledge that try that out for 30 days right 30 day challenge they say anything for a for hot a habit to happen you have to do it consistently for at least 30 days right so there you have it guys we’re actually going to head out to our attenders meeting and I hope you enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed making it yes I enjoyed it you never know be nice to everyone you come in contact with you never know i can remember meeting you i guess about a year and a half ago and who knew then that we’d be sitting here together doing applaud can do and all the things that led up to this point right now absolutely let me know so on that note thanks again guys I am Hamza i am david and we’ll see you next week p sides [Music] [Music] [Music]


Our Interview with Yvonne O Brien

Yvonne O’Brien Channels Archangel Michael In The Bible (Interview)


Video Transcript

and petting me now because maybe they know good afternoon everybody this is Hamza this is David and we have David and we have a special guest today we have Yvonne we love Yvonne Yvonne is awesome and all that good stuff so I’m really happy that we get to share her with the world on our podcast because she is already pretty popular has a very popular schedule and we were able to fit her in which we’re actually going to include as a part of the podcast today because here he has a reason of a spirit linking to her that I’d like to share so without further ado welcome to the podcast Iran hi hamsa hi David thank you so much for inviting me I’m glad to be here thank you hey well you’re more than welcome anytime you get a chance we’d love to have an ongoing conversation with you as time goes on and so before getting started we like to talk about our door opening or what would be incidents in our life that kind of led us on this path many people have similar stories that they were going in one direction and then they had a major event and now they’re on this current tangent if you will so would you like to share that story with the team sure sure I am so it’s a tricky one to actually answer because in some ways you could say you’ve been on this path since your little child to join I mean but then in other ways you can say okay they were trying to get me to do this work for 15 years and find it it’s just a massive trigger that came again you know so probably I don’t from the massive trigger that got me to finally step into this work and own it as a path if you know what I mean and help me step away from the corporate world or a different life I was in where I felt with my dream job full-time job I really loved yes but I think Stuart’s God the Angels however you want to call them had a different plan for me there’s me I was doing readings mediumship and psychic type readings on the weekends and still trying to maintain a full-time job which as I know now was impossible to achieve but I was doing it and because of the time my husband was unemployed and I thought well this is kind of what you have to do and more more as I started to do the readings people started telling me well why aren’t you doing this full-time to name one ham series one of them – and TV excuse me and other things started to happen to me I place about faith in Archangel Michael or Saint Michael and I started asking what why things felt like they were changing all around me and I kind of invoked him or he said start to pray to him every night to say what’s going on please help me I knew there was a change coming police abuses and pretty much took it from there and with his help I started to notice all the signs when it was time to go and whenever to leave my old life which I did do kind of cold turkey I resigned and then I stepped into this full-time and three where he almost for four and a half years later we’re not looking back everything looks great and I understand I had to leave leave that life but it definitely gave me lots of skills that I needed for for working Sturge like so I’m very grateful devoted really we have similar stories in that way it took me a long time to leave corporate and when I ultimately did I was kind of like I guess it was the juggles on me right because of the fear not leaving but then when I openly left I was like why don’t I leave sooner yeah yeah that’s funny it’s a good thing because you get stuck and you get stuck in security and thinking that you have to be on a certain path and you have to be going to but then all these things starting to happen happen around you there you go and hold on wait a second somebody else’s in control here you know yes me exactly so did you so I have you’ve always seen a scene script you want and her yeah when did that start to but you kind of needed she had some kind of gifts or abilities great great price great question so I’m perfect a little bit like maybe aren’t you guys I grew up in the seventies I was kidding with somebody so everybody didn’t know kind of what to call it back then but just when I had problems leading at night I thought I fell faces in my bedroom and a third window which just happened to be the second story which is cliff trained you know and I was a kid who was afraid of leaving the closet and open the what was going to come and she loved it so you know I wasn’t something mother it’s only looking at as a kid I think they would have just said oh she’s just a fearful afraid child so I was definitely seeing a lot of stuff and I was thankful to atleast have my mother to be there and to be the kind of woman who was open to like maybe there’s something else going on here and who who believed in ghosts and stuff anyway so my dad was just one of the more closed off so I think it was starting there but I just didn’t know like that as a kid what you’d call it you know yeah yeah well let’s do that you know you got some validation from your from your mother okay you know when usually people are such a children that are so capable they can be experiencing all kinds of stuff and you know as opposed to getting invalidated what about did you have any brothers or sisters I do I have one brother Carl and I have one sister Jeanne I’m the eldest I did have another sister who died as a young child named names she would have been they actually she would have been the eldest but my brother is quite sensitive my sister is not so much as you’d like to have a raging but then we’ll go off and do all things you can live from side to side you know yeah he so compartmentalizing sounds like yeah she does she’s a mathematician so I expect that you know how do I do sir there is funny yes actually works in actuarial scientists but my mother works full-time and just work now she didn’t go too late I was about 12 or 13 where she started looking into her own intuitiveness psychic abilities and her mother Mary O’Brien my mother’s name is Bridget my mother’s my mother’s mother my granny’s name was Mary and my granny was very very intuitive like she liked you she didn’t like you instantly and people knew about my granny’s a sharp responses to knowing everything to remain and my mother started having an awful lot of dreams so I think for most people it starts with dreams and they were just unusually clear and vivid like you were walking in the store and yourself screaming and it kind of went from there my mother read tarot cards and then left them behind and then got a name for herself in similar to her mother’s accuracy again I mean were like oh my god she knows stuff either go see her or stay away from her you know so yeah so kind of pretty fortunate that I feel very blessed you know for those that are listening you’ll notice that I don’t think it’s just my ears that are picking up on it but it’s not the traditional American accent either true – I am from Ireland yes I’m from Dublin a place called from darken which is their five-month play Dublin I came to the States in 1996 so I still have a sort of a Irish accent but I was talking about this today when I go home to Ireland I’m American and when I’m in America I’m Irish so it’s kind of joke you know it does work so if I now call on the foreigner but then in America and Parma – so I guess a new place everywhere what what brought you to Atlanta or to the United States actually nothing to do with spiritual stuff but I think there was a plan if you know that name okay I’m looking back now because everybody can always look back in hindsight when I went to college my mother truly thought that I had something and she wanted me to go to what’s called the spiritualist churches in England to really hone in to the things I was seeing to understand the Masters and try to help people but I had I was a little bit too young and I thought England was a great place to be in college and had decided to have a good time instead so I think the angels and God accept her said right now she ignored the last four years we’re not going to give her her next wish an acid I wanted to go to Australia and to travel around and instead of that my friend called from college Jordan and said he was going to America comes with sneezing and Dublin see if you can get a place to and of course I knew I was doomed I didn’t really want to go and I knew it that face if I go this is over you know not going to Australia so I went and of course I got a job at a hotel in Atlanta Georgia for the Olympics and then of course as soon as everybody knew with Olympics you have to go forget about Australia you have to go and I was the only one whose kid wanted to go to Australia so like I said I didn’t follow their rules and do the Scourge this church thing in England so now they were like taking over and saying we’ll send you to America you’re not going to Australia when he goes to America you’re going to find a horizon helium Center so not so very Jose there was really no for you up there that’s way wow what a story it’s funny because everyone that we speak with we always ask at the end of free will versus destiny and it always seems like it’s more of a destiny once you get out of your own way absolutely yeah and one time I did a meditation and member earlier at the beginning you asked me kind of what was the big turning point when I left the corporate world I did a meditation a couple years ago asking when never no I just figured out in the meditation to speak to my guy to ask them when I was supposed to do this and they told me I was five years out of course and I laughed a bit I think they let me go for five years you know I asked for what five years and they showed me my son as a baby so apparently I was supposed to leave the old corporate world when my son was born um and then I talked about that because I understood why him because he’s very spiritual I think he has a natural gift and every time I do my readings he seems to come in and help me in unusual way so just the other day there was a lady my son walked into the bathroom sweetie of the morning and he had my rosary beads around his neck and he was very sad and I was like well where did you get them he couldn’t answer me he was just all consoled in grief and about 20-25 minutes later a lady sent me a note off the facebook saying she really needed to talk to me and it was about her father moving her rosary beads in her drawer of her bedroom and she hadn’t heard from her father in 18 years so I completely understood then why my son was linked to my path and him walk into the bathroom with rosary beads there you go yeah Wow I just didn’t take this very valuing so now you know you understand I have like about 1% free love you know so being from Ireland I just have to ask in your experience and you were growing up did you ever have any experiences with the fairies or gnomes not exactly actually it’s very endearing of that happy because I Moorhead frightening experiences with Ouija boards and so I have a vivid memory from secondary school where within my first year where the principal that I called an assembly and said talk to everybody in the entire secondary schools like high school in America and I talked to the entire school about nobody using a Ouija board because there was three girls who had just recently done that and one of the girls would not be going back to the school he didn’t say any further what happened to her but that stood in my head and then there was a couple of different parks that we used to play as kids and I found I found a lot of kind of satanic kind of stuff and some parks of the kids that frightened me it’s nothing in my thought but these are all here kind of telling me to be on the right side if you really mean but I was never ever harm but I remember that vividly I thought I never ever went near a Ouija board I’m trying to keep people away from that and the I didn’t have any experiences with fairies but I certainly had an experience with another person in Ireland that we call the banshee whether it’s fable truth I definitely had a connection there’s a story in Ireland Ireland where if you hear the Banshee wailing somebody’s going to die and I don’t know the full history behind the Banshee but she’s supposed to be a wailing woman of long white hair who suffered and cry and cries for those core about to die if they’re about to die alone the whole thing is alone you hear this wailing woman wailing or it come out of nowhere and little right and it hasn’t happened to me several times and that was made teenagers and I brought up to another and then a few days later I would hear somebody’s definitely bad source ah well that’s no coincidence a and it’s such an awful sound you kind of wouldn’t forget it she’s here I mean so but just hair that very grieving wailing fat stricken noise turning Wow yeah and I whatever story in Ireland we were very superstitious Irish people are and predominantly Catholic country so we lost of old homes you might see pictures of Mary or the baby Jesus a lot of things religious relics or things to keep people’s faith we we assume like for example Saint Michael Archangel Michael would keep me safe but we did have one particular holy picture in our house we’re going up on more and mothers who lives in my house today and we have this old man kind of thing in Ireland that it’s a whole new picture falls off the walls somebody’s going to die so I remember vividly I think of it maybe 10 or 11 I just remember my small little body so I can’t remember the exact day July was we were using breakfast in the kitchen when we hear this crash to the floor and these the thing about the holy pictures falling off the wall they never break they’re always perfect and then and my mother froze still like a series so if you’re an superstitious people you don’t stand when there’s good position called off everybody stops did you know anything my mother I remember my mother prayed please it going oh my god no what happened and then go next and she already knew which picture it was you know and sure enough it was on the ground the the threat that was hanging from was perfectly fine it can break nothing broke on it to this day we have no idea how it got onto the ground version it was about I think a half an hour narrowly later and my mom got the phone call that her dad had died those kind of things you know and those things really sticking a kid’s head so I really just out of curiosity are there any you know centers that are similar or like like the horizon Center and in Ireland or in Dublin or anywhere over there well there’s a there isn’t it’s good to bring up that question because I only started to bring in my work to around about three years ago in the summer time and I went to a scurrilous type Charm City room so it wasn’t per se like a heating cent I think was called the Sturgis Church and where they do some classes and then I tried searching so there I haven’t really found a big a big place like the psychic Institute or anything like that but it was certainly a catalogue of a good amount of mediums and psychics there wasn’t any shortage in I mean and I’m doing work this coming summer in a healing type center that there’s a lot of acupuncture and Reiki and stuff like that but they don’t have any mediums per se so I think that might be a nice fit for me you know yeah yeah I love positioning I mean it’s all about positioning if you’re the only one there that totally makes sense I’d be able today I want to go back to superstition for a second because you’re you still go back home chiral in you still have the you know I can still pick it up in your vernacular in touch so you have that steep rich history that you can always pull to and it reminds me of the african-american experience and how we traditionally have lost a lot of that over those you know over the centuries because you know there’s a huge contingency of African Americans that are superstitious so when you were talking about the banshee you know at least in my family we remember if a bird flew in your house they would have that same type of dread like Oh somebody’s gonna die and you know it in the New Orleans and places in the deep south you still see some of those a lot of superstition that’s still exist but for the most part a lot of people are cut off from lineage if you will right right yeah I’m very fortunate that way and I think again I think you choose your parents I think you choose where you’re supposed to be born what country you’re supposed to live in all your experiences in order to live the past that you’re supposed to fulfill so I think it was perfect that I was born under my mother I actually have grown to understand why I have the father have and in the last ten years he’s perfect – to me and I had everything the cultivated a spiritual experience in me since a very young child and I’m very grateful to that because it does it is important for my path and that’s why I was born there however America really kicked it off for me you know so America does have a good amount of spirituality and I embrace all kinds of faiths as well I think it’s great to have all kinds of religions in the same place you know so superstition has a way of showing up and certain people and they don’t always recognize that superstition you know this to really use I’ve had more people this year mentioned to me though – and three – didn’t think they were superstitious but the minute you mentioned debts and trees or like oh my god you know everybody dies and you know definitely the bird thing as well the bird hits the window as the bird flies in your house the black crow everybody’s afraid of black crows or black boards all the evil if you own a man get away from you know but they don’t always I say recognize their label aside superstition they just they just kind of say it you know and and I’ve been fortunate to done a few readings for a few ladies from the Bayou kind of areas while in a day beam as you said very deep-rooted in spiritual ways as opposed to a hue wait Susan I mean gateways are much older than I need I need was completely understand you know mm-hmm definitely now with you with people that aren’t in this type of nomenclature if you will they group everything together like you’re psychic you’re medium you’re clairvoyant but there’s definitely differences so if you can you talk more you’re more I think you have a greater capability and mediumship so could you explain balance between a psychic and a medium sure absolutely and I think it’s great that you brought up you know their psychic medium healers all kinds of thing I’m actually for saying you’re one thing and not ten ten things you know I think you should kind of focus on one thing and anybody who comes to me for business I say focus on one thing and you’ll be success have too many lists of things and your your amount of nothing to Charlemagne okay so I think you should actually focus on one area okay I am primarily medium because I so here’s here’s and this is why I’m trying to say this in this way I can because if you can approach it many different ways everybody is intuitive or psychic or has those kinds of abilities the legions of peace is just that extra living slot where you can actually be the medium or the conduit to give the message that the person is cost over wants to get to their human friends that they can’t katroo themselves and generally they can’t get it through themselves because the person here isn’t recognizing what they’re trying to say or filling in the dots your name I think that I focus on mediumship because I’ve a good ability to see number one clairvoyance means the ability to see that I can see spirits or I can see a ghost or I can see a part of the essence of somebody that’s that still here are the ones to be seen claircognizance you have four or five different Claire’s the Claire their journey essentially links to being psychic okay clairvoyant or cousins / audience etc no psychic or medium is brilliant in all of them I happen to be very clear and seeing I haven’t challenged sometimes with hearing so I have to be make sure I’m very open so they can hear what they want to say because sometimes in the regions feels like we’re playing charades sometimes things they know and I’m not hearing them correctly you know but I’m speeding them very clearly and if they do a movie story in front of me I can follow along you know so I just have that extra believe you to be able to decide for what’s going on and get the message to the correct me sitting there and dad what I like John you know in our our second podcast that we had we’re on I think 13 now or so but in our in our second podcast yeah yeah we’re kind of we’re making our way out there you know starting to get a handle on this as a go forth but in our second podcast we our topic was on dog links and there’s no accidents or coincidences can you mention it sometimes that it’s hard for people to get a message but there are other times where the family member or ancestor or something is persistent exists and they won’t stop until they get your attention and we were going to talk last week but you had gotten someone that was very persistent persistent and getting in touch with you but I’d like for you to share that story if you will oh my god yeah are you ready this now if this will really take you back and I cried for days after this I just couldn’t stand fathom the magnitude of what happened and it’s amazing you guys David and Hounds there were literally a part of that we try to podcast last week and it was scheduled and I was scheduled to do a reading over the telephone before that and it was my first reading back after taking a vacation to Yellowstone and Glacier National Park the only reason I mentioned that is because it’s actually all linked we started the reading everything was finally going great two minutes before I was supposed to so I went over time on the reading but just two minutes before I was supposed to get onto the podcast this young man showed up and I kind of recognized him and I was like well maybe they’re trying to show me a parallel this couldn’t be the person that I know Sara main coming into this see I didn’t understand the correlation but when you do mediumship you you realize you have to leave your head behind this has got nothing to do with your brain you know because we just can’t understand their ways okay so we would started talking about what was a murder and I was like I think this is my case and we were two minutes in and he winked at me and then I said to the young lady I have to go I got the scheduled podcast and has never had a speaker crossover wink at me before I saw I didn’t know what to make it averse out what this is kind of funny I felt really good he was giving me this amazing feeling but he winked at me then I said I have to go and I was like oh my god why did he come in at the last minute and I had called closed guys and I was having tremendous trouble with the actual getting my phone to work etc and we ended up kind of deciding okay just something wrong Danelle was at the time so we decided to reschedule nice and you know I’ve got the feeling I need to go back to the radios just chocolate because this is the guy I think it is this is going to just I’m stunned I mean so I go back and we continue on the reading for another like 45 minutes and we go all into this murder that I’m so much in a trance I don’t completely really realize what’s going on and she doesn’t verify what I think it is but I know that it’s a good reading so we end the reading I give her all the details and that’s that after that I went I got so fixated that I thinking that is this the case I worked on two years ago that stopped suddenly for me that I got very upset because it didn’t go where I wanted to where I needed it to go I thought it needed to go okay because there were so many similarities right I was the same name everybody like could it be and I went and pulled up the case and I started crying and I couldn’t control my client because this is a boy I’m talking about it’s not it’s a child it’s not adult you know and I’ll leave the names out of it for the sake of where it’s kind of goes here I mean put out I was very very upset and I went to bed that night just exhausted from the energy of pulling all this in etc and the next morning was kind of bugging me did I needed to explain one part of the reading jar and I emailed her and I went and I said this section I think is to do with my case and I still wasn’t 100% sure this was my case so I said it’s not may not be yours and I verified I gave her the full name of my case that I’d worked on actually with our group Hamza with with four or five ladies it was very second case and it’s we did a report with Sheriff’s Office I had some financial dreams about him and I was convinced it was going to get solved but then it stopped we had it in the report and everything so bringing our the next mornin tell her the name of the person it was ten minutes later he said to me we have the same person and I broke down in tears and then she no but that’s all she said my mother had to go to my kind and then that afternoon I had to I was like okay where does she come into the picture channel name um hell did she know what this person and she verified by that evening that she was the best friend of this kid and that she knew everything that I had said and we both broke down in tears and after that and then she said I want to help to get to the family and I had tried our group had tried to get to the family but we got no response and here and this was two years ago where it stopped dead in his tracks okay and somehow two years later this is the wife her husband came to be a month ago and he begged me to do a waiting for his wife and I scheduled her for the first night back after I’d spent two nights two weeks in the in the national parks thinking about the particular case of that boy who was connected to parks and the killer was all connected to parks and Here I am going oh my god this is why I went to the parks this is why her husband found me I have still no idea how he found me to this day and now she’s determined to help and to get it word supposed to go but you see this boy knew this when he winked at me and I couldn’t comprehend half of what he knew because my logical thing is just not able to understand that they know everything and that everything is in divine timing and now I’ve tried to get I’m getting our group back together to see where we can take this now and see easy to go define a lap of the race now and finally get solved oh wow okay they’re yet to be posted on that if you want me to I wanted to talk a little bit about that because yeah as a medium and people seek your services but you also had outreach to the law enforcement so how did that come about originally well honestly I have to thank my father for this from when I was a kid because my father is a lot quieter than my mother and he’s not as if he wasn’t the kind of father that was easy to get to know and women but as a kid he had this an unusual interest in crime magazines but so we used to go to on hardly sustain every summer my father introduced me to true crime magazines that I used to read on the beach in Spain every summer and that’s where I learned about serial killers and other third stuff I know it sounds quite morbid but he played a part in my interest in the why people do what they do and why they do as she’s earning and I was always fascinated in tracking killers and trying to figure out what their next step was and why so it was a natural occurrence for me after I started teaching classes I tell I started started a road to mediumship warn a road to meeting him to and at the end of two which is six weeks program we look into a missing persons because I started seeing missing persons coming to me everywhere on bucket cans and everything I was like okay I get it you’re putting them all in my face and my neighbor across the street Burmese boyfriend just happened to be Detective and I just happened to give him some information he asked me well how did you know that we never released that to the public you know so I knew there was something there and then I started to have a decent amount of dreams of people who have crossed over and who were coming to Dove not stock but aren’t happy the way things were for the sake of their families unity so I naturally said okay I need to give back and there’s enough loss of sadness in the world due to young and old people being taken taken from a veritable to do not being there doing at all and the group said when to road to meeting took to had a natural interest in pursuing cold cases and they said at the end of it let’s take a look at this and we found that some of the sheriff’s departments and were more open than we thought to it and each member the group would just find something and we’ll put it in front the group and group would say for some reason this one is a severe I mean and we started doing remote meditations from looking at things and I’m going to fight some sending reports to Sheriff’s Department’s police departments and whatever way we could help it on a voluntary basis because again this has to be kind of our give back you know and and this was they the lady I just met this was the very second case that we handed over and all of us were kind of disappointed it didn’t go any further but now we know possibly we get a new lease of life in it now mmm absolutely that’s a great order yeah which nothing’s really it’s all divine timing we need no I would never a manic imagined the way be made for her to find me and if I tell you all the details of the case you’d be floored as to how connected this young lady is to it you know and it is I couldn’t stop crying I was like because you become good friends with these spirits that have crossed over you become like your they’re your own brothers and sisters and sometimes it’s hard to let them go and put them in the right hands and no like you don’t like you know it will get taken care of it took me a while let go of that one and I had it’s been about a year where I’d kind of now and Danny would he would jump back into my head but that was about it it came full force on that knife and I musta cry for three days straight I just couldn’t get over it you know Wow yeah it’s unbelievable I’m telling you when there’s good and pot only more good comes with it you know yeah so you wanna do for as long as you’ve been doing readings and doing your work you you know help people out and you know different in profound ways so you know those people could talk about how how to affected them and and whatnot but on your end what do you get out of it what do you enjoy the most about the type of work that you do Wow okay so that’s a first of all I enjoy the tremendous balance and it’s brought back into my life because it’s forcing me to go out and walk I have to go into nature practically every day and I’m getting a lot of peace out of doing that what I’m getting clarity in getting information while I’m going out to walk it’s helping my body I feel an awful lot younger the second thing I have to regularly do meditation and meditation just makes you feel great I can look at things totally different now i from demented things I’ve seen I don’t take things as hard as I might if I had not understood and I’m continually learning I think there’s a ton more for me to see you know I mean and understand you know but I certainly don’t sweat the small stuff and more at all and I think I’ve lost about 10 years and stress you know oh then it’s certainly now for people understand it’s certainly something you can’t read the week it just doesn’t work that way the very maximum users do is 15 hours and if I 20 to 20 you know 1/3 maybe sleeping 10 to 12 hour lights you know so I know this is it a border I can only see three people a day now and and if if it goes any further than that you know the quality of what I can receive will go down and it’s just not worth it you know yeah yeah so it’s going to do to balance you know it forces you to to do good practice keep yourself healthy wow you know yeah yeah so you know all the readings you’ve done your life there’s anyone that just kind of stands out for whatever reason that you just never will forget Wow there are a few and some of the best ones I’ve ever I have to be honest which as well as that this car may seem strange so the best readings I’ve done I’ve not charged a penny far it’s been and what happens if it comes back to me tenfold all right sound I’m going to be protected and stuff like that I definitely helped a lady one time who couldn’t pay for our electric bill so there’s no way I’m going to charge her friend reading you know I think the information that her mother gave her what I was standing at the sink of my kitchen over my 20 minutes they think that could’ve been a matter of life and death so I remembered that how to really rip affected me for most animals afterwards I also remember changing with another larger case which was a double murder what was particularly gruesome but I remember the wonderful and detective Lee worked with and how amazing he was but I think the clinical one would be my brother’s best friend who committed suicide but because I knew him since I was dead six or seven years of age and I it was no two years I last somewhere I finally I’m connected with you sister and the way things went down again is we just make you cause to think that again and they’re pulling my strings I’m not pulling their strings killing me awesome so I had always had Sean with his name our daughter’s best friend and I always thought he was funny as a kid and I just knew there was something about him that we had more connecting our paths to that probably would have known you know and that week in Ireland when when I did the reading for his sister literally I got this message from Sean standing my sister’s house gone you have to tell Donald to text Kyra today it has to be today okay and I was like okay my brother is going to play along with this let’s see how this goes you know so he’s the nation he has potentially was trying to get me to me to write text for him but I said just tell her your sister is in town she’s really connected with Sean he’s got lots to say everything’s going to be alright and he was very nervous about ever you know it was Oh God you think I’m not too whatever cuz he hadn’t seen her in a while – she texted back within about 10 or 15 minutes saying that it was the worst day of her life and that she just heard the best news ever and when can we do it and I said she’s gonna say Friday and she said Friday and Friday were over her hands and she put this piece of paper on her dining room table I couldn’t see it because a turntable was far away on it she had a list about 20 to 25 questions for her daughter her brother answered them in order Wow and we were flabbergasted and she had her husband there on the couch taking all the notes it was recording the poor guy was like the bits by the end of it with all the writing you know but he to him I will never forget that time in her house and he just put her mind at rest and ever since that day on the way over my brother drove me over to our house and we kept hearing Justin Timberlake’s on you know I’ve got that feeling he’s got a feeling right on and it just came out and and I said call him there’s something special about this song and I know Shawn is trying to tell me that this song so I said remember it and my brother just didn’t want quitted the house he dropped me and laughed you know I think he was still in the middle on the fence cuz like I don’t know if I’m going to lose my sister and my best friend’s sister is wrong this whole event and in the middle of reading in comes Justin Timberlake song I’ve got that feeling and I said Shawn keeps saying here every time you feel town without him here to put that song and she said that is the only song that makes me feel happy so this day every time I have a reading that’s connected to a suicide I hear that song on the radio going to the reading and some days I’ve heard John 34 stationed at the same time in my car–it’s where I was in some kind of UFO or something Oh three two cells I got they were formalized this kind of relationship with you the certain codes mean certain things you know so I don’t think I’ll ever forget you’re on frog Rafi never forget it and and he was really really close friend to the family we all cried to get you 38 when when it happened and it’s always been like that might will always be my head that’s a lutely not that they’re really great well you have a ton of great stories we got to have you on I feel I can supply them I got 15 journals alone in my drawer and I’m looking at the drawer full of Charles I highly recommend to everybody that if you have vivid dreams to write them down their notes just to comes a month later and go oh my there is just so much heat and if you guys you don’t write down nobody will believe you unless you produce a journal you know and yes over this weekend Yvonne you had a class at Phoenix and dragon talking about changing your career in life with Archangel Archangel Michael and I wanted to let you talk a little bit about the class because for people that are listening to this they obviously miss that class but I know you’re going to have some more when you come back from Ireland before you go into it what made you choose Archangel Michael over any of the other angels well um one very important reason one of the kids my mom gave me a prayer from Saint Michael our Archangel Michael and so it was a prayer for protection because she was worried about me sitting up all night he’s not sleeping and scared you know so she can’t make this in front I still have it today although it looks like it’s 300 years old you know it’s a bit but it I kind of formalized the relationship with him as a kid I think to protect me as and to really help me so when I was noticing all this change was coming for me just before I left the corporate world I started asking him for help and he showed me how to kind of get back onto my path and how to leave my old life and into my new one and all thanks to him I started the workshop because I was convinced well if I can do is silikal’s can you know I think so we turn this into a workshop and then when I was writing the workshop on June 13 strange enough today is Jewish today June 13 today oh my god okay did break up so much so in June 13 2015 I was sitting in this very basement right in the workshop and I heard and again hearing Tinley sometimes can be tricky I heard a loud as day in the room because you believed in me I came to you so I chorus burst into tears and it’s not just because I’m a weepy woman at this stage I just think we hear anything like that your whole body just breaks down you know and I was like oh my god I think he just spoke to me and you said because he believed in me I came to you so that I end up putting in the workshop and creating that as the bones of the workshop that if you believe and saint-like like into Michael he’ll help you get on your life path he’ll help you get on the right direction and you protect you true ish and that’s why he was so great because you need the protection knowing you’re going in the right direction and you need to have some blind faith at the same time so as long as you have some kind of angelic support and I think you’re okay you know yeah Wow yes so he’s called ball he’s cobalt blue for me so anytime I see somebody walking into a region with me with the cobalt blue blouse or shirt I always know this is going to be bad path they’re changing their career you know yeah Wow watch out for that Carter now I think it also is just so great I mean when you were talking to them and they were saying like you’re five years off the path it wasn’t like you were being catalyzed I mean a bird we’re going to get over I would say kala high water but didn’t find a way to get her back on the pod but five years means nothing in other dimensions you know Wow the love so thank you man yeah and I am any was very they put at that point I think they were saying now it’s time because they put so many things in front of me so they just couldn’t ignore it you know things that did the job I love the chopper I was in the old crew but everything absolutely everything changed around me the management change the philosophy our organization people who are loved working with we’re shifted to lead off in different directions things that I would have deep-rooted problems with starting to show up everything was there to tell me that there’s an avalanche coming you know so catch feeling yeah I can see that I feel like I’m in the eye of the storm what is going on you know so I think at that point they were saying okay now it’s time to go old Bush we’re going to give you a hundred two hundred and fifty reasons why you know that’s funny so you’re on you said Venus of 1996 yes sir we’ll do you just plan on you’re gonna stay that’s a pretty good amount of time you’re going to stay United States for your rest of your days or you could you first to yourself removing that tyrant at some point I am David I have no I see that’s a brilliant question did you ask me since I moved fully into my past I kind of live one day at a time and but I know when change is coming like I said about the Avalanche earlier okay and I just go with the flow now okay so when something good is happening in a difference in a different direction like last summer I went to Ireland it was the best summer I had and I thought oh god maybe I might stay here a bit longer you know so that was pretty hinting at me that you need to look at different shores or we want you to move now a little bit out of your comfort zone now move to the kind of next level no but it’s very very important when the feeling comes to act on us okay so I was like yeah I’m going to go back next year and I’m going to do this this and this because last year is when I really found that Center and the ladies like oh you have the room whenever you like it and she just happened to have a mail server of like 4,000 people and we did up a really quick flyer the week before I’d already gotten tired the week or it was you to start Center for 4,000 close people and the first cast we had a spike of mass class 3 or 20-something so Germany and simply just blossomed you don’t have to be prepared for these things at all I went to Ireland not knowing what was coming come on the doorstep you just flower it’s rain for me yeah so I’m open for any in all direction you know yeah looks like a good 2017 it’s easier right I mean you have a website and you mentioned driving to a reading but you do readings over the phone you’d be reading over the web yep yeah so yeah it’s been a very big growth year for me and I I appreciate everything that’s coming my direction and the readings are getting bigger and and more and more enlightening so who knows what’s next to do I mean I’m still trying to stay grounded if you’re going to mean and humble and I’m very very grateful because the first year I stepped into this I had nothing but Archangel Michael told me to trust that everything was ok and it was still one thing I was told I had a very vivid dream dream where I don’t know who the person was because I still to this day told me who they were but this person told me in a dream that to enjoy the time with your kids now because it won’t be long before you’re really busy and sure really right they’re active device so while I thought oh my god I just laughed a full-time job and I’m going down to 2 or 3 hours a week it was actually God sent and it was more time to get yourself together think about which direction is none of it was spent earn misspent surname it was perfect time I had the greatest time with my family as well as figuring things out and slowly going in the direction that I was supposed to go you know so don’t push anything anymore you know yeah Oh Oh so when are you heading off to Ireland how long before you leave I’m leaving at Sunday yay sausage and you know I don’t I have a connection with the eating center that I’m going to but again I don’t have anything already put out there but I know is everything’s going to be fine you know I trusted you know last year was pretty amazing and that’s why I say to people the strangest thing can produce the greatest fruit or bear the great food one day my mother said let’s go let’s go honest I have my mother to thank for this she said let’s go and buy your daughter their shoes nice people we didn’t need to buy her a pair of shoes we just got her you know so we go over to the shoe shop in a different town and I’m sitting there and there’s nobody else in the shoe shop just me my mother and these two ladies and I get this overwhelming urge ever my business card and she’s like oh my god I was trying to find a medium there’s no me when we come and see you so he’s the shoe shop you know Tony happening it was my mother who reminded me bringing some business cards which and I was like yeah yeah I just got here you know cursing so they were in the back pocket of my jeans that brought them with me those two ladies gave me more space and so for summer they just kept coming from those ladies we passed on to their friends and another thing to spend any ideas group innate they were common and common in Coleman like like I said it was the shoe shop shoe shop there kept giving gentlemen you just never know where their food is gonna there and that was meant to be done I still time to thank them to this day I still laugh over like you old if they gave me you know yeah yeah it’s great to know sometimes it’s nice to yeah not know where it’s going to come from and this pleasantly surprised yes it takes like I know I know a lot of people have read Wayne Dyer except if it’s like when you’re living in the moment right you’re just happy and peaceful all the that starts coming to you right now I’m you’re not stressed you’re not worried about security you just saying can’t understand still for a second let me look at side appreciate the trees the birds are all the beautiful things around me they’re just happy squares of lives in the tree he doesn’t want a big house sometimes a mansion on the hill you know and you’re like okay I’ll give it to see like them and let me fit is enough in the work for everybody and just be happy within yourself and then all the stuff on just keeps coming around you know it’s just amazing you really would be surprised once you sit back and get out of the way like you said you’re in your answer okay what can happen you know yeah your own way others right let me ask you if on what would in the event that people are not walking into that magic shoe store like you did how could they get in touch with you online I know you have some properties that I’d like for you to talk about so people keep an eye and probably watch your travel because I know you do blog a lot about things that are going on with you right yeah absolutely so I have the website Yvonne O’Brien calm so that’s why do and in the OPR ien calm I put some blogs or posts on there things that are quite significant that it happened to me for the people can understand the same thing can happen to them or they can understand when those things happen to them what they actually mean I also keep up with a Facebook posting I also have a Yelp page sometimes I put the odd thing on there about events etc and not to notice those kind of avenues for the king and in touch with me and they can contact me through the website as well I generally get back to people then day or two depending on what’s going on if you need yeah thank you yeah absolutely how long are you going to be in Ireland at this time under six weeks I think it might extend because I’m trying to light something I’m not even going to call the book because I’m being very stubborn about it you didn’t hear I have a few chapters or something within this unit and I’m trying to figure out what again but am I’ve been drawn to kind of finish this and stood out there you know so I might extend a little bit further to try to get some of that writing done tyranny never voice recorder say it again I’m sorry do you have a voice recorder no I just have all my journals so I thought actually couple times I thought about getting somebody to help me write it but then I kept going back on its a way the way it’s listened not necessary the content is the only name so so I went back to me doing and I just need to get up there early some mornings and there’s a you know I need to go back over ahead you’re very young caring loving relationship with the cast that I was had some amazing experiences when she crossed over Sean I was covered and a couple other major events and who knows this case there is come back up again might end up being a something to write about – you know I bring it up because I just finished Paul Tillich’s audiobook I am the word and since you are a medium and you channel these energies that stream of consciousness comes through get through so much content Wow yes I mean even on that flight over right it’s just like you have all that all those hours on the plane you just like a second it’s like a second muscle when you start doing voice recordings it’ll be really interesting just a thought yeah and I feel it’s a very good thought because I really believe in what some of the writers say when you get in the zone you have to keep going and it’s all about kind it’s almost like you’re semi channeling when you’re writing you know when it’s coming the way it’s coming out of you and that zone computer important when the flow is there people and you know and if it happens on an airplane then an audio voice recorder will be perfect right depends but yeah I know I’m very I’m very much getting the push to move to get some stuff down and paper because I have a lot of journals and I think it’s worthwhile trying to bring people back to God or trying to give them give them that own from their life if they haven’t found it yet and know that there is a lot more out there that we just don’t understand you know yeah sure Yvonne it was a great pleasure having you thank you very much delighted nice to be on the podcast thank you very much Dave and Hans I appreciate it yeah and uh safe travels to you as well absolutely and I got to be on music lucky episode number 13 there you go superstition episode look that’s Jesus and twelve disciples or thirteen a good number number thirteen I have known with our team you know okay threes and sevens of my numbers so yeah I’m good you I need to thank you very very much I really really appreciate you and thank you so much you’re well-read you’re definitely welcome and definitely keep us posted I’m sure you’ll have plenty of stories when you get back oh absolutely I have a lot to do with missing animals I’m just today to show something on missing animals and and stuff like that so you’d be surprised the topics you know Wow okay thank you for gentleman’s are very very much thank you so much thank you and until next plane you guys have been a part of intrinsic motivation from a homies perspective I am Hamza and I’m Davis and we’ll look forward to seeing you guys on the next podcast peace peace out [Music] [Music]


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