Speaker 0 00:02 Good morning, good evening. Good afternoon everybody out there in podcast land. You are in tuned to another episode of intrinsic motivation from a homeys perspective. This is Hamza and I am really happy about our guests that we're going to speak with today. Some are for for selfish reasons. We'll discover that some of the questions that I asked during the podcast, but she has been a family doctor since 1990 and she is a certified hypnotherapist and an author to boot and a business owner of dollar fizz in Florida, Hobie 24 hours in a day. Anyone says they don't have enough time? We need to speak to our guest today. , without further ado, I'd like to welcome our, our, our doctors. Last hypnotherapist, last author. She has actually written a book, the reading glasses lie and she's going to reveal secrets to clear vision after the age of 40. So now you know why I'm a little selfish in wanting to get this information as well. Without further ado, I'd like to welcome dr Natalieto the podcast. Welcome Natalie. Speaker 1 01:11 Thank you for having me. Speaker 0 01:14 Absolutely, yes, yes. We had some hurdles, but we got through it and that's what intrinsic motivation is all about. So I'm glad they're able to make it today. Speaker 1 01:24 I'm glad to be here. Speaker 0 01:26 Yes, I like it because I liked interviewing someone with your background because you have the traditional medical background and you have the, I guess, quote unquote alternative. So you're actually living proof that we don't have to fight amongst each other. No. Hatfield's and McCoy's. We take what works on both sides and put it together so we can be our ultimate self. Would you agree? Speaker 2 01:51 Yes. Best of both worlds. Definitely. Absolutely. I, you know that when, when a doctor is, is a certified, the oath that we take is premi, not, not it, which means do no arm first things Speaker 2 02:10 It makes a lot of sense. And you're talking about not always applied though. Isn't that the truth? And I'm really interested in speaking with you because I mean your book, the reading glasses, why I like for you to go into the impetus of writing the book and what's the traditional way people will regard reading glasses and let's dispel some of those myths out there. Okay. Actually, I was, , I was starting my series because, , in my medical practice, , for 25 years I was in family practice, but I was mainly delivering babies and I was assigned to write my books about the pregnancy crown calls. But I got sidetrack at age 41 cause I, I started seeing the letter fuzzy in my books and I had to push the book away. And, , I asked my sister and she goes, well, just buy the CIPA reading glasses, the dollar store. Speaker 2 03:06 And then you increase the strength until you hit three or 3.5 and then you need to see an a, an optometrist. So he's going to sell you like more expensive glasses or contacts and you'll go from there. So after a couple I bought a pair of glasses and after a couple of months the letter were fuzzy again, even with the reading glasses. So I bought a second pair, which was stronger after a couple of months. And right before putting those lessons in front of my eyes, I said, there must be a better way that my buddy's not flawed, that at 41 that's it. My eyes are giving up on me. So I researched everything and I have a lot of my friends in my medical promotion, like at my medical class that ended up being a pharmacologist biologist, which is the eye specialist, not the glasses specialist, but the eye specialist. And I contacted them saying, you know what's happening? And they all said, well, you're aging. That's it. Just get some , , reading glasses or contacts or LASIK and that's it. You're doing then. And it's part of aging. So I researched everything and they were wrong because I'm 54 now and I can read without glasses and contacts in 96. Of course. Speaker 2 04:17 I think that's phenomenal. And that's part of my selflessness for wanting to speak with you because I got LASIK about 20 years ago and maybe about six months ago, things didn't seem as clear and I'm like, Oh, I slaughtered for 20 years. Or just I go to go and get the reading glasses and fall in line, but it then I can't because your book, so you're going to give me some mixtures that I won't need it. Actually, there's four secrets to re, , not needing reading glasses. And , the bad news is when we hit 40 or 50, depends like we don't want to age at the same time. Like people have gray hair at 20 years old, some at 60 still have Brown hair. So, but we'll put a cutoff line at 40 and that's when we started getting wrinkles and back pains and joint pains and all that stuff. Speaker 2 05:05 So let's say we age more at 40, just for argents sake. So there's four secrets not to use any apparatus and it's use it or lose it. So if you use reading glasses, it's like you're putting your eyes in a wheelchair. You're not using them. They're not focusing on not doing anything. So that's why they get worse. That's why you need to increase the strength that shows that the eyeglasses are not the solution. They're the problems actually. And same thing is for contacts. Same thing is if you're reading with a magnifying glass because you're not using your eyes, they're not focusing, they're not doing their exercises. So they're paralyzing. That's why you need to increase the strength. And LASIK is a different ballgame. But there's complication with Lasix. And , there's a, , one of the, , first, , men that approved, he was working for the FDA, Dan, he approved LASIK and now he's 10 years later, he's now working for the FDA anymore. Speaker 2 06:04 But he's asking for a ban of LASIK, which is a little over the top if you want my opinion, because some people had LASIK and they loved it. Like she loved it for 20 years, but he said he was lied to, that the side effects was only 1%. It's actually 20%. So one thing you can get after LASIK is halos. It's like you see a glare around life and many people cannot, , drive at night from halos. The worst I heard was that the flip can, can detach. So because they do cut off the cornea so that that foot and just reading that it's like Ooh, no, and there has been, there has been a couple of people that committed suicide after LASIK and they really in their suicide letters saying it's because of the LASIK because their eyes were like really out of whack and they were going insane. So, so I'm not doing LASIK. Speaker 2 07:02 Thanks for sharing the extreme cause I'm the worst and I fall less than that then I'll be okay. And I know for my, my personal experience, , I did have halos maybe about six months. I had the same surgeon that did tigers. And so a tiger, tiger, tiger woods. And so it's been pretty good except that I had to wear or I continued to wear eye drops. Like I can't go a whole day without dry eyes. Dry eyes is a very common side effect. So honestly, what I like is I've got one pair of good eyes and like people who use reading glasses, they have like five pairs, one in the car, one in the house, and they're always looking for their glasses. So I have one good pair of in front of my eye and in front of my face and they work like they're under ready. Speaker 2 07:55 So let's, let's get into the four secrets, the first secret, and then your audience is going to go, Oh, she's so stupid. But the first secret is stop wearing a reading glasses. And I know some people said, well, I need them. Well, if, and depends how strongly you use them. If you're at 3.0, you're going to have to win yourself. So you know, 25 and don't grab them the second you need to read something, , just try it. Try to read, try two different lights, like have proper lighting to, you cannot read in the dark. We're not bionic people anymore, so we're not young anymore. But, , take your time, take a deep breath. And also, , the, the second thing is exercises. There's two kinds of exercises. The first one is regular exercises. You get to get the heart pping and then again we do the disclaimer, ask your doctor, blah blah, blah, and don't want you to have the heart attack or whatever. Speaker 2 08:48 But , we have to keep active. There was no more freebies. We cannot eat pizza and party all night and, and be fresh in the morning. So we have to exercise, we have to take care of our body for all the right reasons. And the second part of exercises is eye exercises because nowadays we're almost always looking at either or cell phones or a computer. So our eyes are stuck at the same distance of focus. So they're not, they're not working, they're not doing anything. So that's why I call the eye exercises. I push ups. So you get, you get your eyes out of the wheelchair and you have to start pping the, because it's the, we don't even know what causes presbyopia, which is like the needs, well, it's not the need because we don't need it, but the use of reading glasses. But what we know is what, what could be the problem is the lenses differ and the muscles around the lenses differ. Well, if the muscles don't work, if you're always looking forward at the same distance, you're not doing anything. So you have to do eye exercises. So that's, , things that I show how to do Speaker 2 09:59 Okay. And that's okay. We're, we're getting at the third element. The third element is nutrients and we all know about antioxidants and all that stuff. So, , it's kind of hard for, at least for me, I've had some people saying I eat my bowl of kale everyday. Well, good for you, but I'm not going to sign up for that. So a either in your diet, but it's a lot of, of course, the good thing, the greens and the vegetables and the antioxidants, lutein, zeaxanthin. So honestly, I take a supplement because I, I don't eat my bowl of kale every day. So it's the same supplements that they did in the average study, the age related eye disease study, and it also protects against macular degeneration. So we're killing two birds with one stone. With that one. Speaker 3 10:49 Yes. Speaker 2 10:53 So that's three. Okay. And here's four. , there's a long way from the stomach to the eyes and also, , the eyes are not vascularized much. So even if you eat all the proper nutrients or you take the proper supplements, , you need something topical. So I created eyedrops that are the nutrients that, or, , just, just like we put a cream on or a wrinkle because we're missing a collagen and, and other, , amino acids. So I just created, I draw. So I put honestly, people focus a lot on the eyedrops going around. Okay. Magic drops, you know, like they like magic pill, the easy fix. But that's the least of the program. The program is really don't use your reading glasses, you're making your eyes worse. And that's the proof because you need to increase the strength. So stop molesting your eyes like that. Speaker 2 11:47 So to put it that way, I think I'd need to put a bed. Yes. Well, I, I joke, , I'm doing a study right now is comparative study. We'll get back to that in Guatemala. About, , my method, , compared to using reading glasses. And I joke to people, I say, don't use your reading vessels unless you have a million dollar contract and there's like little little funds then read the fine prints. Yeah. But, , honestly most of the times you can just, , and you, you're going to see like progression. Like the first times I saw clearly again without glasses, I was like, wow. And now I had a friend and it's been like, , 13 years since I, you know, research all this. And I have a friend who goes, well, is your vision improving? And I was going like, can I improve? It's already like normal. So it was kind of a weird question. Speaker 0 12:41 You're talking a lot about how strong the the mind is, right? Because you mentally, you, you had this determination not to use said glasses and you had a desired result. Whereas others are like, I'm 40, I need to wear a eyeglasses or reading glasses. And that's the end of the show. Speaker 2 13:01 Yeah. Well, people would say, Oh, I need my reading glasses. I'm not going to start a fight with them. I'm not like, I don't want to convert people. Just like I created a program of hypnosis for childbirth and some of my patients were, we're delivering as you know, far away hospital. And they said, well, my doctor doesn't want me to use hypnosis. And I said, well, don't tell him. Just say I'll relax and close my eyes. You don't have to, don't start a fight. Don't waste your energy on nonbelievers or whatever. So yeah, you have to, you have to be motivated. And , the good thing is though, that the results are pretty fast. I'm getting back to my Guatemala study. I, , I have a hundred. I enrolled the 191, , people in my study. I split the group into, , group a and group B group a is doing my methods. Speaker 2 13:48 So, , using the eyedrops, , doing the eye exercises and not using reading glasses and the supplements and group B, , was using reading glasses. I, I tested them, I tested their strength. And after one month, even, even though I was expecting the results, I was floored by the results because group a, the one that was doing, I'm not using reading glasses, they all improved or stayed the same and it went as much as one point 25 strength difference in one month. So that was impressive. And group B all worsened or stayed the same. The people that use reading glasses, many needed stronger reading glasses after one month. So that's impressive. Okay. And are you going to get that published or is it published already? , I'm in, I'm going back in two weeks for the six months. I might not get it published because it has, it's not double-blind because I was the only experimenter, you know, but I knew which group people were in. So it's not like a, and you know, I, I didn't do it in the U S with all the committees and all that stuff. And that was on purpose. I wanted, I always want to do things fast because life is short. So I want a fast results, which I got. So I, it's mind that'd be publishable per se because it has some bias. But the main thing is to open the door to saying there's something there. Speaker 0 15:18 Absolutely. And you'll be very proud of me. I wanted to let you know that before our podcast started, I made sure that I had a glass of water by me. And you talked about the importance of water, but I never really put the two with water and eye health. Speaker 2 15:35 Yeah. I actually, I have my glass of water next to you too. And I've been sipping so, , tears. So yes, , when we're dehydrated and it's a known fact that , older people are dehydrated. They're dry as a bone. Sometimes if you look at grandpa, he's, he looks like a dry cookie. So, , and the good example is when you're like when you have a hangover is because you're the hydrated. Because even though you drank, let's say 16 beers or whatever, , alcohol is diarrhetic. It makes you pee. So they say drink one beer P to P two beers, but, , and the next day your eyes is out of whack. You're seeing fuzzy because you're dehydrated. So it's kind of pulling your, your eyes, eyes in their socket. So you need to drink and we never drink enough water and we're supposed to drink eight to 10 glasses per day and we don't. Speaker 0 16:28 One thing that I found with, , I'm a big software guy, I love technology and all, and before I used to think, you know what the han brain, Oh yeah, I drink enough water. And then when I downloaded a water app and it kept giving me that reminder, I was just really surprised at how much water I wasn't drinking as opposed to what I thought I was doing. Speaker 2 16:49 Oh definitely. Speaker 0 16:53 So the, the other thing I wanted to talk about was , I'm a huge people watcher too. And in your book you were talking about being at the airport and talk a little bit about the discovery, cause we're talking about turning 40 or over 40 and reading glasses. But this issue comes along in my opinion a lot earlier than 40 with regards to glasses and having to wear them. Speaker 2 17:20 well, if you look, if you're sitting at the airport doing nothing, I love to look at people and or if you're at conference, you look around and it seems like everybody's wearing glasses. And then the ones that are not wearing that last is mentee or wearing contacts or add LASIK. So it says this like is there someone would regular eyesight in here? And honestly, I don't know where we're going with this, but , the problem that we see is the, the electronics that we use. And , if you have a younger audience or if people have children or grandchildren, they have to warn them not to bring the cell phone in the bedroom. That's the worst thing you can do. Well, first you don't get your good sleep because you, you get the bbling and all those messages and you get your REM sleep is disturbed. And second, the worst thing you can do for your eyes with your cell phone is if you're in the dark and you look at the screen, then the blue light goes right in your eyes. And if you're in the dark, your pupils are dilated to catch as much of the light as possible, so you're really harming your eyesight. Speaker 2 18:29 Wow. Speaker 0 18:30 I know that some people, it's really hard because it's right, it's near you at every waking moment and sleepy moment. So you're saying Speaker 2 18:37 it should not, it should not be. And there's also electric electromagnetic waves, which are disturbing like, or cells and everything. So it should not come in the bedroom. And , I, like you said, I have a dollar store, so you know, I have time and it's not that busy. So I did a unofficial survey. I surveyed a hundred people about their cell phones because I was concerned about electromagnetic wave. Most people know about it, but they don't care. They care about their phone and everything. But all of the, , government guidelines right now or is if you use your cell phone two to four hours per day, and in my survey, everybody said it's on 24, seven and at 30%. And that was a bonus. I didn't, I didn't think of that question, but it kept coming back. 30% of people sleep with their cell phone under their pillow. And you imagine that get a life, you know, give yourself a break. Speaker 0 19:35 Well indeed in addition to the eyes, , cause I used to be a road warrior so I used to always be at the airport and a lot of guys that were there or have there, they didn't wear it but they had their laptop in their lap and then you know, science came out and said that you want to have baby don't do it. Or a women that used to keep their phone in their bra, you know, you had to stop doing that also. And so w with regards to eyes, I wanted to ask you, because we're going to, this realm are awesome, would say we're already there with this virtual reality and you're seeing commercials with everyone having these devices up to their faces. And how much damage is that happening? I mean, are they doing to themselves? Should it be like only an hour a day or she'll, they just throw those, those headsets away. Speaker 2 20:25 We don't have any experience on those devices. And, and I saw like the new thing is the VR and the contact lens and the battery will be included in it. So if the battery explodes, your eyes explodes. I'm like, no, no. And people on the comments were saying, can't wait to get it. Can't wait to get it. I'm like, no, this is insane. Like, you know, our eyes are not meant to have like those kinds of aperitif. It's insane. And then some people you know are trying to make money. So there's the glasses against blue rays at the, the blue lights coming from the, but the best thing is, you know, you can, we can all do it. It's hard. I know people are shaking, but cut down on the time that you use your, you look at your screens. That's the first thing. Second thing is you can definitely put the brightness to the lowest. Speaker 2 21:16 That's what I do with my phone. And the only time I have to put it more bright is when people ask me, well, when I showed them something on my phone, they go, I can't see anything. I'm like, Oh, okay. Let me put the brightness for you, but I'm used to it. And that comes back to whatever you ask your eyes, they're going to give it to you if you are patient enough and if you do it right. , so let me ask you this because I, I laughed many times while reading your book. I mean, it does have that comedic slant to it then. So you get a lot of epiphany's like a lot of people in the middle of the night. So do you turn all the lights on and then get back to writing your book or are you writing in the dark? Speaker 2 21:56 , I have a pen and a pad next to my bed, so I just empty my brain and go right back to <inaudible>. But sometimes like Jerry Seinfeld in the morning, I cannot read what I wrote, but most of the time, and even though I say it happened to me, even though I said, you know, I'll remember, I don't need to write it down by morning you had two Rams of washing out everything and you're like dying. I know it's there, but you can now remember it. So yeah, just pen and paper next to my bed and just go from there. Yeah. So when you're, when you're going through REM sleep and you're dreaming, do you ever see anybody when you're dreaming wear glasses? , no. Actually no. It really relied. And when I was reading your book, I was, I'd never even thought of that question. Speaker 2 22:49 But it seems like such a crutch today, , that you see so many, it's actually associated with being smart in some circles. Some people maybe wearing glasses even though they don't need them. I think that's funny. Well, well, yeah, some people wear zero strength, , glasses. But then your eyes is focusing on that window that's in front of you, so it's not focusing at the right distance. So that's bad. You're harming your eyes. Yes. Profession. So wear a skive, a scarf, wear a bra or whatever, but don't wear glasses like hello. Who would wear, who would wear crutches? Just, you know, for fashion just to, well, some people do actually just get pity, but that's different. We're not talking about them today. That, no. Okay. Let's get back to the eyes because I do want to ask you, I mean, I don't wear glasses like I'm into where LASIK, I had LASIK, Speaker 0 23:46 but over the past couple of years I've won. I've worn those glasses that have the, , I think they're blue. What are the blue light reflector? And so it actually is, there's this big argent about, you know, is it all in our mind these glasses won't work. I mean, they don't have any, any, any prescription to them, but they're supposed to block out that excise light when you're looking at your screen for too long. Speaker 2 24:12 Yeah. When I researched those, it was like, yeah, maybe they work, maybe they don't. It's a, it's a big business because then, but if you put your, , Lu, , , filtering glasses and you look at your screen 12 hours per day, that's my good. Okay. I think the best thing is to cut down on how much you look at your screen. And if you have to work and I work at my computer, you know, a lot, , if you have to, , they say, , every 20 minutes look 20 feet away and , for 20 seconds and I add to that stand up, go get some water, drink a glass of water and then, you know, pp up the oxygen and, and look in the distance too. And actually sometimes you go back to your computer and you have solved the problem that you've been on for because you, you change your, your mindset and you pped up some bloods your brains off. Speaker 0 25:02 Absolutely. , and I, I did find, just like I use the example with the, with the water app, I have a free app on my, on all of my screens that the screen will actually go black and I think, yeah, 20 minutes and you got to walk away for like four minutes. And before, initially I found myself just cutting it off. Like, no, I'm in the middle of something. But then if I had a headache at the end of the day, I'm like, okay, I need to start listening and paying attention to this app. So Speaker 2 25:30 awesome. Okay. The other trick is, , you know, we were talking about dry eyes either if you had lasiks or if you're older, your dryer. , so whenever you click the mouse Speaker 0 25:39 you blink Speaker 2 25:41 and you're going to see that you blink a lot. And that's good because all the eyedrops on the market and, and the FDA has been, , you know, chasing eye drops and closing so many manufacturers in the last year. It's, it's incredible. But , of all the eyedrops the best one, our own tears, that's the perfect composition for what our eyes need. So definitely blinking is what we should be doing instead of putting like jobs and all that stuff. Speaker 0 26:10 I love that you said our own tears and your, you're doing your book a disservice cause you, you, I think you went the whole gamut of checking out all the different drops from Ayurvedic to the most expensive. Could you share some of your experiences without naming company names? Of course. And using the different eyedrops? Speaker 2 26:31 Yes. , well, most been work honestly. , the homeopathic homeopathy, the basis of it as a scientific person like I did seven years in college is the of a dilution of is dilution. So we're basically getting water at $19 a bottle, so that just puts regular sterile water, just boil water and put it in a little eyedropper if you need it. But, , like I said, arc, , tears have the right sodi and, and , the, the water and it's, it's the perfect composition. The other one are your Vidich and, and the what they call <inaudible>, which is, , a flower and everything. I didn't see any difference, honestly, and they were expensive. I mean, teeny weeny bottles for $20. So yeah, none of them work. Yeah. Speaker 0 27:22 Yeah. It sounds like, , they're, , they're taking advantage of a desperation potentially. Right. If you're sending, if you're not, if you haven't read your book, right, and you don't know the four secrets, your, your eyes are dry and you have headaches and you want to solve this problem. And so I guess the fat easy, quick microwave result is to pay $20 for that. What? One third of a of a fluid ounce in that bottle? Speaker 2 27:49 Yeah. What I found is, you know why, , looked at, , all those jobs and, , some had like really cute name there. The to Betsy has is good at finding like really, really cute names, but in the ingredients I, I found some names and I was like, what is that new substance? I knew it was salt, you know, they don't call it itself because who would pay $20 for salt? But it was salt. Wow. What's the, I forgot the, , the term for salt that we can, for those that read the labels.well, they're there. So there's sodi natri there. There's, , there was another one that I put in my book at yet. The name escapes me right now, but it was really a very nice name and it's, it's, , salt. So, yeah. And, and just like eye exercises, you don't need to pay for eye exercises. Speaker 2 28:43 Well first, they're all over the internet. And if you look on YouTube, , Paul McCartney, the XP or shows you a, if he calls ityoga, but it's actually the one that I showed the to to my, , patients in Guatemala is, , you just, you know, roll your eyes, you do a big clock and then you can, the best you can do for your muscles are around your eyes, around the crystal. The, the lens is to do diagonal. So upper right and then lower left and you really pull, and I mean your, your head has to be like, it's in cement. You don't move your head. That's called cheating. Okay? If you move your ads or your muscles, your eye muscles are not functioning. So you keep your head as if it's in cement. And then you look upper right lower left, and then you do, , upper left, lower right. Speaker 2 29:30 And then you can do a big clock and the big clock you just do all like all the hours. You imagine a big clock in front of you. I'm showing you with my hands right now. It's all, so you do a big clock and, and actually you have to do it really, really slow and you really have to pull on the muscle. Sometimes it might make you nauseous because you're really pulling muscles. And I was showing that exercise to a woman and she goes, it hurts. And I'm like, yeah, just like if you go to the gym and it hurts, you're waking up muscles. So yay. No pain, no gain. So the good thing is to do one click and then you do it, , , , counter-clockwise, clockwise for another treatment. And the good thing is three minutes is a commercial break. So when you're watching TV, whenever there's a commercial break, you can do your eye exercises. It doesn't have to be, I have to commit to my accent. I exercise it. You can do it right in front of the TV. I like that. And for other people like me that watch DVR Speaker 0 30:31 and so we kinda escape paths. Those commercials, those are opportunities where you can exercise your eyes. Speaker 2 30:37 Yeah. And it makes me, well, when you get, when you get that, when you get the AMS, that when you get that four minute the alarm and you have to go blank, you can get your drink of water, walk around and then you do your ideal sizes. You got plenty of time. But the main thing is that my message is that some people say, I don't have time. You always have time. Okay. , I was saying if you're at a red light and you know, I have a red light here, it's five minutes seriously. So I have time to roll my eyes or, and, and it, you don't have to buy a, those programs and DVDs. You can actually use your index finger and everybody has oneor you know, any other finger and you just put a 12 inches, , in front of your dose at eye level and you look at your index finger and then you look in the different distance as if you're looking through your index finger. And then you go back and you're going to feel your eyes contracting. Speaker 0 31:31 okay. When you're there, there's people that look at, we're talking 40 plus or maybe 30 plus with the eye issue that we have. And there there's the school of thought that people still like to touch paper and there's some that are just attached to the hip with their Kindle or their E electronic book reader. Is it better in your eyes to have the regular book or does it matter? Speaker 2 31:58 A regular book is better because the light from a reader comes from the reader towards your eyes. So it's going into your eyes, which is not meant to be like that. The a extreme example is, , many of the eye exercises were described by, , Dr. William Bass, who was in the Psalm ologists I think in the 1920s, 1930s. And he had it all right except for one thing he'd described one thing that was called sunning. He said one hour per day look directly at the sun. And then he said, there's only one woman that went blind for a year and d, that's not recommended. Heifer did lean. You know why like solar eclipse, you don't look at the sun. And all those caution. So yes, but same thing, , the device is not as strong as this sun, but it's , you know, light coming into your eyes, which is not meant to be that way. Speaker 0 32:56 , I did, I want to share this with you also, , because I, I like others may find themselves in doors a lot because you are on your electronics working or you know, goofing off or what have you. And I started seeing like, , what do you call them, the , , little clouds, like little black clusters and floaties. Floaters. Yeah. Yeah. And I noticed when I went outside for a little while and I didn't have before, it used to just as soon as I saw sunlight, I, my sunglasses were on and I did look at the sun. But if I went out without sunglasses for any limited ending period of time in that hour or less, those eye floaters went away. Speaker 2 33:41 yes, yes. It's good to have like natural light but not look directly at the sun. Definitely. And I met someone who was 70 and she goes, I don't need reading glasses because I go outside and I don't use sunglasses. So that was interesting. I'm like, okay, people are, you know, bringing me their messages. So yes, definitely. And they did a study in China and it's funny cause they, they got the kids outside for one hour per day and it's, it's wonder like they weren't going outside before to study, but anyways they found out that their eyesight got better and their mood got better, their sleep, everything got better of course. And you know, I guess outside they were also moving but you know, you needed a study to find that out. But definitely their rate of myopia went down just by going outside and you know, cause outside you can, you have things to focus in the distance as well. So that's, Speaker 0 34:36 I'm glad you highlighted that. No, I'm glad you highlighted that. And it's a shame that it wasn't here in the States because in the States there are a lot of schools that took recess away and kids aren't going out as much as a generation ago. And so not only we're going to pay the bill, we're going to pay the bill Speaker 2 34:56 down the line very fast. Well, the children obesity is, is skyrocketing right now. And that's not something we saw a hundred years ago. So, and then metabolics syndrome is, it's just like a, you know, high blood pressure, diabetes and, and , , overweight, that's all from sugar and not moving. And it's, it's all life habits. There's something we can do about that. Definitely. And then have diabetes. Diabetes affects the eyes like really badly. So that's one thing people can do too is control. Well, not control their diabetes would appeal because I feel will lower your sugar, but it doesn't treat problem. So you have to exercise, you have to stop eating all those carbs and all those transforms, , food and then then exercise more. Speaker 0 35:48 I was a little scared today. I had to buy some groceries and I went into the cereal aisle and I noticed that there's like a Hershey's suddenly auction and said that name. But there's like chocolate kisses. There's doughnut, there's cookies, chocolate chip cookies. All of, all of these are in serial form now. And so I'm sure for the the kids or if you keep the kids quiet or yelling, please, please, please that most parents just give in. And by them that, and you're just talking about diabetes at a later age, but it's, when does it start? I mean, you don't get diabetes overnight, be it. Speaker 2 36:24 Well, we have, we have younger and younger type two diabetes, which was an older problem. Like people were, their pancreas was not functioning. Now if it's, I'm in young kids, but it's the same thing. It's obesity is not moving enough. I call that ILD carbs. I and I, I, I don't even go, when I pass in front, I'm like, okay, carbs. I'll, I just pass it. I don't go to that point. Speaker 0 36:48 Hmm. Yeah. It's interesting. Speaker 2 36:52 They're, they're going after all kinds of, , of, of things that I've cancer and then they're, they're getting warnings or banning damn. But sugar is like the best drug and it's available everywhere and that's what's killing the most people, like before his cigarettes even. So, yeah. Wow. I, I mentioned that in my book that I saw a woman in Guatemala during a mission and she was in, in not even 30 years old and she was blind from diabetes, but she did not have insulin or anything for a year. And , we're suspecting that she was not diagnosed like soon enough because over there they don't have like health care at all. But she was blind from it at 30 years old. So it's serious. Yeah. Wow. And at 30, I mean, you still have like 70 years of life and over there they don't have streets and you know, red lights and everything is, you know, all for yourself. Speaker 2 37:55 It's a dirt road and cars and motorcycle going around. So it's very dangerous. So yeah, I have a friend that owns a vitamin shop and in there his major clientele are like 40 and older women and men, mostly women. And they're, they're looking for supplements or what have you. But when he talks, he's a nutritionist. They also talk about a laundry list of medications that they're also taking. And so does the medication also affect the eyes? Oh, definitely. I have a whole chapter in the book about that because, , it goes from, you know, seeing blurry to being blind. Okay. So again, the extreme, but yes, and nobody looks at the side effects when they just pop the pill and, and like I said, most people will just treat the symptoms and then you have side effects on the pill. So you take a second pill and then you take the three pill. As you can see, I'm not really into that part of traditional medicine. Like for every symptom there is a pill because then it's, it's a, it's a vicious cycle. , honestly I'm 54. I don't think any, anything. I take a two Advil per year when I partied too much. That's it. But, , I don't, I don't think any medication, I don't need any medication and I hope it stays that way for a long, long time. But I'm taking care of things. Speaker 0 39:23 Absolutely. Do you, and you have a sunny disposition if I may say so. And so does your, your temperament, not the shores, but everyone, does that also affect your eyes? You were talking about in med school, how most students, they don't get enough sleep and that's a detriment to your life, but it affected your eyes. So could you talk a little bit about that? Speaker 2 39:47 Well, I, I was in solo practice, so I was delivering babies. I delivered, , between 150 to 200 per year. I, I deal with a total of 3,700 babies in my career. So I'm being solo and, and my patients were going natural with the hypnosis and everything. So, , the oxytocin, the hormones that triggers labor starts peaks around 7:00 PM. So most a natural labor will go during the night. So in a regular week I would be walking up three to five times per week, , having to deliver a baby or somebody who was in false labor or blah, blah, blah. So, , I'm gifted, , , I'm blessed in the way that I could roll, go back to sleep and just roll back and, and like, and the nurses were saying, Oh my God, the son is getting up at 6:00 AM. And I go, well, I only started my office at nine. I have two hours, two hours and a half of sleep and I'll take it. So, , I'm blessed with being able to fall right back asleep. But there were days where I went 36 hours without sleeping and then you can see your eyes are out of whack because you're tired, you're dehydrated and you didn't get the REM sleep, the one that restores your body and everything. So yes, there's a, and I'm sure people feel that one, they're really overly tired. Your, your eyes get scratchy and then you're, you're not seeing properly. Speaker 0 41:12 I noticed that with kids. , I was just around a bunch of infants for the holidays and you know, they can't speak yet. They're only a couple of months old, but when they start rubbing their eyes, I knew it was time to put them down. Speaker 2 41:24 Yes. And then when you're sleeping, your, your, your eyelids are closed, so your, your tears are really doing their work. They're rejuvenating eyes and everything. So you need your sleep too. That's one thing for, for health and for ice also. I just imagine you with little kids around you. That's so cute. Speaker 0 41:46 Oh yeah. I loved it. It was like a, you know, I mean they, they give you so much energy cause they have so much energy to just to keep up with them and everything's so new. They're a blank slate. So yeah, really good timing. Yeah. So, so what about, you're talking about natural tears and some people can't cry, so you're saying and Ballantine's just passed. So are you saying that guy should take girls to see like those romantic comedies and drama so they can cry and they will help their eyes? Speaker 2 42:16 It, it does help that your eyes do to cry or did it just get an onion out and just chop it that that will get you crying. But even just blinking is also like a winch and a washer of your eyes. So blinking is, is good too. But definitely sometimes if you feel like your eyes are, well first don't rub your eyes cause then you're, and and in Guatemala again, they don't have like roads, they have dirt roads, so they all have conjunctivitis. So they scratch their, you know, they see dust, these crushed horizons us. Stop crushing. I'll give you drops, but stop scratching for heaven's sake. Speaker 0 42:51 yeah, I used to live in Dominican Republic, so it was a lot of smog there. And yeah. So is that, , a side project for you going to Guatemala or are you going to a lot of different countries and promoting Idaho? Speaker 2 43:08 , it, it's actually, I do medical mission, so it's general medical missions. I've been to, , many, many countries. I went to 80, after the earthquake. I went there three times. , I went to, , Guatemala many, many times on Duras, Bolivia, Nicaragua. We used to go to Mexico, but now it's kind of too hot zone to go there. But, , we go around and then I had a project with my father buidling, his cooling Mexico, which we did. So that was really awesome. So yes, I go around with groups to do medical missions and the I studied, that's a personal project that I'm doing, just, you know, because I said, you know, I want, I want proof of concept and I got it like way stronger and faster than I taught. So that was cool. Speaker 0 43:52 Absolutely. That sounds like a lot of fun. And I was wondering if you're seeing similar themes in these different areas of a world, are they all having similar issues regarding their iHealth? Speaker 2 44:04 Yes, definitely. And, , when I wanted my study to start my study, I said, well, I asked the priest, can you say in church, like whoever is over 40 and has trouble reading. And hen I got like 200 people that sign up within like three days. So I was like, okay, this is so cool. Like this is easy to do a study, usually a medical study, they announced it on the radio forever. We need volunteers and this and that. So that was fun. Speaker 0 44:34 Yeah, I love that. And, and conversely here in the States at the, at your dollar store, , isn't that where a lot of people get their, their glasses? What in your book you were talking about the rep that sells the glasses there and they're looking at, you know, having a customer for 30 plus years. If they start at 40, , what was it like dealing with the reps to sell those reading glasses at your store? Speaker 2 44:59 Yeah, it's kind of a conflict of interest. Now I would have trouble selling lesson, but they're actually big sellers. Like everyday people would buy glasses and I thought one customer that came in and she was in her forties and she grabbed the pair of one foot because they try it and then she says, Oh, 1.5 is the one I see clearly. And she was with her mother that was buying TriPoint 25 and I had to bite my tongue not to tell the younger one, well by one 75 you're going to need it a couple of months looking at your mom like a William William Bates again was a he, he just, he said something very smart. He said, , you can almost tell a person's age by the strength of their reading glasses more or less a couple of years. So that was like, Ooh, that's interesting. Wow. But that was before me. That was before me. Cause see I don't wear anything, so I'm 0.0 and I'm 54 so that doesn't work for me and it doesn't work for the people in, in group a and my study. Speaker 0 46:02 Sure. I mean cause you're living proof, you know? Yes. Yes. I love that. I love the fact that you have the medical background so you're, you know, it would be different if it were me. Right. And I said that, but I mean who am I? I didn't, I didn't go to school for it. And so for you to see both sides and you could just see how, how we're kind of programmed as to, yeah, I'm this age and this is what happened is like I just slowly deteriorate and it doesn't have to be the case. Speaker 2 46:36 And, and yes and no, honestly, because, , like I said, when I contacted my friends who have Tom ologists, so they were specialists of the eyes. They all said, no, you're doing that. This is a irreversible. And if you look on the internet right now, the American of film ologists association says it's an irreversible condition of the eye. You need reading glasses, LASIK or contacts. So not having that background is actually good because you don't take for granted. And I'm a stubborn person. I don't take no for an answer. I just go by the back door and knock again and so forth. So not having the background of being an ophthalmologist or even well up the mattress or you know, I, dr Dayton, they have a store of eyeglasses. Honestly, it's more like a business. But, , not having that background helped me question because if I had been trained for first, you know, saying this how it is and there's nothing we can do about it, I would not have most probably questioned it. But now that I was a family doctor and the background of hypnosis also saying, well, you know, , whatever you want to conceive and believe you can achieve that. Speaker 3 47:46 Yep. Speaker 2 47:49 The other thing is that I wanted to ask you that I learned from reading your book is that some doctors will retire in, some just leave the business altogether. And there's a fine line of that. Could you explain the reason why you're no longer a doctor? Well, I'm still a doctor cause they didn't drain wash me out. Like I still have the knowledge. But, , being in, in solo practice, , I was told and, and it was all kinds of nbers. Anniversary. I turned 50, , I was 25 years of practice and many people retire after 25 years of being like at the post office or school teacher or whatever. And then, , my last year I have four kids. They, , got out of the house. So I said, I'm not going to stay in the house finding an empty nest. So let's go to Florida. Let's open a store and do something different. Speaker 2 48:43 And the, the point I was trying to get at was you were saying that if you retire and you still use your license, you have to get approval for things that you yes, yes, yes. The doctor police still can say you cannot say this, you cannot say that right now since I, , I'm, I'm retired because I'm not working as a doctor except for the medical missions, but I also resigned. So my, , college cannot come after me saying, okay, you, unless I would practice medicine, which I don't, , like in the us or Canada, whatever. But, , now I have Liberty of speech and you know, saying, okay, well maybe you don't need reading. Well not, maybe you don't need reading glasses. LASIK has side effects that they had. Some people were not happy with LASIK, some more on 90% or that's for sure. And, , same thing with contacts. And some people have had severe infections with contacts. So I have Liberty of speech, which allows me to write the book because if I was in full time practice, I'm sure I would've had a letter or and or a phone call saying, okay, we would like to discuss what you said in your book and blah blah blah. Speaker 3 49:55 Whoa. Speaker 2 50:00 Yes. And then it's preventing people from getting, you know that information. It's not for everybody. Some people will say, no, I need reading glasses. She's stupid and that's it and I'm fine with that. But other people, and that's my, my goal, I, I will have open a door just like you are open to the concept of saying, okay, there's something there. That's interesting. I'll next time I'll think about reaching for my reading glasses. I'll think about it. Yes, I'll drink more. I'll do more eye exercises. So it's, it's there. When you said drink more, it made me, it made me think of when I moved back to the States from, from the dr. and so people took me out to the bar to drink and stuff and they were like, where do you want to drink? And I said water. And so I wanted to know your, your take of them, not, I don't want to make a generalization, but what is the level of knowledge or access to clean water and how do they make that connection between clean water and iHealth in these different countries where you do your medical missions? Speaker 2 51:07 Well, in third world countries, the world is not a purified, so they get yeast infections, they get parasites. And then we go there, we give them pills against parasites is going to work for a month and then they're going to read, drink the water. And we've seen people in the river, one is doing their business and down the stream. The other one is wishing you're, , washing her dishes and she, you know, it's the same water. So, , and there's a lot of education. You have to tell them to boil the water, but then, , they don't have stills. They have, , , they do fire. In the end they inhale the smoke. So that's a different health issue and you have to work with what they're, they have, , some people have filters but very, very rarely. So most have like on filtered water, which is really bad for your health. Cause then you have like parasites and all kinds of stuff that stuff. So again, it's not good for their eyes either, but that's not the worst. It's mainly their digestive tract that's really, really messed up. Speaker 2 52:12 When you do the medical missions, do you partner with other doctors? Like you talk about iHealth and someone else may talk about, like you said, digestion and overall a food health? Yes, I actually, we're a team and it's a, there's a lot of medical missions that are led by Catholic groups. So I just hook up with one in, in Texas and , we have our pharmacy, we have our dentists and they, the dentist only do extractions all day long. They just like young gang gang. It's really awful. And , we have , or nurses and we have, , the lion's club usually comes and fits, , eyeglasses for four people. And I do usually regular consultation for women. And children. Oh, cool. Cool. Well you're talking about the dentist. I thought of the medical tourism where a lot of Americans go to these different countries to get their, their dental work done. Why not? Because it's really cheap and some Mexican dentists because in our mission, , a group of Mexican Mexican dentists, , join us and they're really qualified and you know, their prices are really, really cheap. So, , and, and I'm Canadian. So we have, we have a card, we have Medicare. So it's, it's not the same, , issues that we have definitely. Speaker 0 53:36 Oh, gotcha, gotcha. And I, we don't have to talk about it, but I was just, I was laughing at one of the conferences in your book where you guys were there with the other dentists and they were looking under the microscope. This is awesome. So also things that shouldn't have been there. Speaker 2 53:57 Well, it seems like you really read the whole book, which is impressive because usually people are the do interviews, they're so busy, the, the, the slide through it and they just get the, but you really read it all, so that's good. Speaker 0 54:13 Sure. Well and just tell you to show that I read the book. I, this is my last question and it's not even related to eyes because it made me think of the little things that people close to us do that they are not even aware of. That means so much to us. And you had highlighted a, I think it was your youngest child who is busy like everyone else, but actually took the time to read your book as soon as they had their hands on it. Speaker 2 54:42 yes, yes. That was my daughter Stephanie. And she read it and within a couple of hours, and that meant the world to me. , because , yes, I want to get my message out, but knowing that my daughter and my kids are, are always like so proud of me and supportive and everything, so that's good that, that's what keeps me going. And honestly, I, I stbled on this problem because I lived it and then I stbled on the answers and I said, , it's not in my life plan, but I have to share it with people. So I'm, I'm glad you're giving me that opportunity because people need to know that there's another option right there. That's the natural option and that it works. Speaker 0 55:25 Absolutely. Yeah. And thanks for taking the time. The only thing that we didn't cover, cause you talked about your supplement and you have eyedrops and to learn more about getting your book and what have you, , this'll be a perfect time to talk about where they can pick up the book or your, your supplements or your address. Speaker 2 55:44 Okay. The book is on Amazon, so that's, , everybody knows Amazon by now. And , for the supplements and the eyedrops. And I also have, if, if you guys are busy, I have a 14 page report where I condense everything, all the information, the four secrets and the bonus I exercises sheets because, and I don't want anybody to do the exercises looking at their screen. They're arming their eyes. They have to print the sheets. Let me be very clear about that. So that would be on my website. It's doctor, so D R, the letters C better.com. So doctors see better.com. Oh, okay. And I guess one last stereotype is the, does the see Stanford carrot? No, it's actually, it's a play of word. Would, , singing better? , , and people miss it. People miss it. Like doc T or are they still gonna go on my website? Speaker 2 56:49 If they write F. E C. E they're gonna go on my website. So I did all the misspellings. So you're covered. Oh, very nice. Very nice. Well we are at the top of the hour. I do want to say it was a pleasure speaking with you, so we'd love to have you back on some time in the future to hear more about your medical missions, how we could potentially be a part of it or contribute in some way or some fashion. I know a lot of people in the audience are from all over the world, so any way that they can contribute would be phenomenal. Yes, definitely. Or hypnosis, if you're interested, I could talk about hypnosis forever. I this another passion that I have, it's such a phenomenal thing and it's natural and it's so impressive. Oh, okay. Then maybe I'll reach out to you for that. And we'll do that as a separate interview that I've had women, because I have a hypnosis for childbirth program. I've had women laughing while the baby was coming out. No one is sees. Oh, wow. Yes. Yeah. That's, that's huge in itself. Oh my goodness. Okay. Yeah. What we've got to, even if you shouldn't talk about that, that's great. All right. All right. Well, you have been in tuned to another episode of intrinsic motivation from a homeys perspective. This is Hamza dr Natalie for that. It was a pleasure. Let's stay in touch. Yes. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Cheers. Bye.